Sherry Shriner Radio Broadcast - Reality Radio Network - 22 August 2005 - 1st hour

And hello folks and welcome to the show, I'm Sherry Shriner.  I will be taking listener comments and questions for the first half hour of the show tonight.  You can call in now at 260-356-2611.  Tim White will be the guest tonight.  He will be calling in after the first half hour break, until then if you have a comment and question you can call in at 260-356-2611.  You can also contact me at sherrytalkradio@yahoo.com throughout the show with your comments or questions, or through Yahoo Instant Messenger at sherrytalkradio@yahoo.com.

 sherryaudios.com is now over 1000 Mb of space, just behind sherrytalkradio.com.  So these two sites are not just space grubbers, but bandwith grubbers and I need your donations folks to keep these sites up and going.  I do appreciate those who do support this ministry on a continual basis.  And that's what I need more of, people to commit to supporting this radio show and online radio show on a monthly or weekly basis.  And so I'm just going to count on the Lord for that as He leads people to this ministry, the more He sends the more I can do.  And it's those two sites alone folks out of the 20 that I have now that are just real grubbers, and I want to keep those sites free.

 Anyone could tell you that putting stuff available for download on the internet just soaks bandwidth up.  And people think traffic's free, and it's not free.  You know you can  pay a minimal amount for space but getting traffic to your website is like a parking lot.  The more people you have going to your site, the bigger parking lots you need, you have to pay for that space.  It's almost like a rental.  You have to pay for all the cars coming into the parking lot.  And that's what we do, we have to pay for traffic that's what bandwith is.  And so if I have 50,000 people, visiting one website a week, I have to pay for that traffic and that's what bandwidth is, that's how they charge you on it.

 So stuff on the internet is not free.  I know a lot of people seem to think the only thing you have to pay is a one time monthly fee of hosting costs and that's not true at all unless you have a site nobody visits.  I have 3 million hits a month on my websites and I haven't even tallied in 6 months or so.  So it could be higher than that now, I don't know, I know it's global,  Every time I looked at the website traffic, countries I can't even pronounce a lot of them.  Just a lot of different smaller countries, countries I've never heard of, and that's on top of the ones your are familiar with.  I could probably name 150 off the top of my head, and the other 30 or 40 just get you.  And that's just how it is, it's the internet.  And so I've got listener supporters around the world and I enjoy hearing from them.

 So just keep stuff free folks, let's just keep it free.  I know the minute I start charging for something because I have to, I start hearing from everybody else, "how can you charge?", "why isn't is free?".  You know a lot of people expect you to keep offering things for free and I do, I try.  I certainly don't have a lavish lifestyle, and so I'm doing the best I can.

 You can also download audio files now both of my books.  "Aliens on the Internet" and "Bible Codes Revealed, the Coming UFO Invasion".  You can read those books or listen to those books for free now in audio file format at sherryaudios.com.  And of course all of my articles are in audio format.  And I've been putting up some books on the Nag Hammadi Library.  And that's a real interesting library folks because these books were the ones that the Roman government was originally after to destroy.  And that's what started the whole Christian persecution during the early church history.  Was to wipeout all of the books and transcripts that they had, so that they could control what the early church believers had.  And the way they did that was with the Council of Nicea in 300AD and 325AD to control what the church believers had and were reading.  And that's how they came up eventually years later with the KJB.  And so if you want to know the what the real truth is back with the early church taught, you've got to dig back.  Dig back before 300AD you can find books during that era, you can get a better grip on what the truth really is instead of  being told what the truth is.  And everyone of us that has been born has been told what the truth is and what to believe and what not to believe.  And so it's a conditioning process that you have to overcome.

 Listener call in line 260-356-2611, you can also contact me at sherrytalkradio@yahoo.com, either through e-mail or yahoo instant messenger, for the first half hour of this show...

 Steve: Sherry.

 Sherry: .... on what comes on.  Yes.

 Steve: You have a caller.

 Sherry: Okay go ahead and put him on.

 Steve: You're up caller.

 Caller: Hi, I've just been listening to you.

 Sherry: Hey how are you doing?

 Caller: I'm doing all right.  I have a question.  A while back you were saying that they had to go up in space before the 8th to open up a gate?

 Sherry: Yeah, to close that stargate that was opening.

 Caller: How would you do that, how would you open or close it or whatever?

 Sherry: Well it's all occultic stuff.  There was some lions gate that was opening up in space at that time and so it was my belief that they were trying to close that gate to prohibit something from coming through that gate.  And so they had that window, I think it was August 8th or 11th, I could be mistaken.

 Caller. Did they do it?

 Sherry: I have no idea.  I have no idea, but I was reading something the other day that they have to go back up in March which was kind of significant.  I think I said on an earlier show when they tried to hit that ice block a couple.. last month or so, I can't even remember the name of it, the one that they did just hit with the nuke.

 Caller: Yeah, like Copper Stone?

 Sherry: Yeah that it would be coming back in March next year.  And now they're saying they're have to send up another shuttle in March of next year.

 Caller: Well gee whizz.

 Sherry: So there's something going on there.

 Caller: I have another question.  This Planet X (unclear), when is it actually supposed to come close?

 Sherry: Planet X, when it comes close, you know a lot of people are going to be feeling it.  As it starts getting closer, it's going to cause a lot of destruction.  That's what's causing a lot of the earthquakes now, a lot of the earth plates to move.  A lot of the solar flares that we're having now.  So as it starts to come closer and closer and closer we're going to end up with more and more destruction.

 Caller: How long are these things going to be before we start seeing some serious stuff?

 Sherry: Well it should have been already.  I mean the Lord's held it back.  It's something the Lord can speed up or delay.  And as mankind reacts and further continues to rebel against Him,  He's going to speed it up or He can delay it.

 Caller: It's just something I was told,  I've been thinking about.  Paul... (speaking together) ....I've often wondered why he's always different from the rest of them.

 Sherry: Yeah, the whole thing when you look at anything about prophecy and relation to that, He can speed it up or He can delay it.

 Caller: Thank you very much, you're doing a good job.

 Sherry: All right thanks for calling in.

 Caller: Bye.

 Sherry: Bye.

 Listener call in folks 260-3562611.  I wasn't really prepared to talk about NASA, I had that name on the tip of my tounge about that.  That block of ice they were blowing up last month, that I was saying was an alien carrier and they were calling it a comet.  And it will be back in July.  They might knock it off of orbit for a little bit so somethings going on... not July but March of 2006.  And so all of a sudden I'm reading that NASA is sending a shuttle back up again in March of 2006 that they just had up again this month in August.

 Yeah there's definitely space wars going on that we're not hearing about.  The Lord just tells us to watch, to watch for His coming, to watch for the signs, to watch, watch, watch, that means to pay attention.  So you may not always be able to explain what's going on but at least you're paying attention, you know something's going on.  Threre's so many people in apathy and complacency and not paying attention to a thing that's going on, so when you start to talk to them about current events about what's really going on they have no idea.  They're clueless or they call you a conspiracy nut.  And what's a conspiracy, a conspiracy is nothing but questions that aren't being answered.  And so they accumulate because no one will answer them.

 And what do you call a conspiracy that's been proven true?  Do you call it conspiracy, what do you call in when it's been proven true?  There’s a lot of truth behind conspiracies, I mean they don't start from anywhere.  It would just be called disinfo,  That fact that it being a conspiracy means there's a lot of truth, just nobody will verify it, no official verification.  They throw those words out to scare people off from questioning govenment tactics and military tactics and things that are really going on behind the scenes.  They don't want you aware of what's going on they want you back on your couch watching Sunday football and leaving them alone.  They want the population clueless. 

 And so that's why we have radio shows like this.  I'll bring this stuff up, talk about it the best I can for as long as I can.  You know we're not always going to have time on the air to talk,  Tribulation period's coming closer and closer.  The Lord say's times over as we know it, that things are going to start happening, and once it starts happening it's going to start happening like a flood.  And so it happens all at once and you're looking through all this information over the last two months  and I told you back in July that it would switch back over to the NWO faction for the month of September and October.  And it has and that's what we're looking at, I'm looking at.

 And the stuff, the threats of going to war with Iran have not gone away.  Syria's not been mentioned as much, so it makes you wonder if they throw Iran at you.  You don't know if it's conditioning because they really plan on doing a, going after Iran, with Syria really their target or vice versa.  You know there's no weapons of mass destruction in Iran, and it's the same garbage, the same hogwash they fed us about Iraq.  The UN inspectors already said, Iran isn't close to having weapons of mass destruction.  And president Bush's whole argument is that they one day could.  If you want to sacrifice your kids for a probability or even a possibilty or a theoretic?  I mean come on folks we've already sacrificed enough in Iraq?

 I like Cindy Sheehan's statement when she said for pro war people, why don't you take our soldiers places in Iraq and let the ones who want to come home, come home.  That's fitting.  If you're so pro war in Iraq, so for this war in Iraq, go take some soldier’s place so he can come home.  Because I tell you what, a big chunk of that military no longer supports the war over there.  There was a huge mutiny going on behind the scenes that media isn't ever going to tell you about.  You know several generals in war time, especially one that is seperated from his wife and then being kicked out of the army for adultery.  You know they're false charges.  Or they're talking about generals painting grafitti on cars in parking lots.  Give me a break.  When you start seeing generals in a war time getting kicked out of the army you know it's a serious mutiny's taking place and whatever reason they're giving you is a bunch of hogwash.  And that's exactly what's going on.

 And the military is going to stand up, there is only so much they're going to take.  They know that they don't have the numbers to continue the war in Iraq.  They keep dwindling and dwindling.  They wouldn't listen to the military leaders when they went into Iraq.  And I was reading something with president Bush the other day, back with his comments about the Vietnam War, and his statement saying we lost the Vietnam War because the polititcians got involved with it and took the control and power out of the military leadership's hands.  What are we doing in Iraq here?  We've tied our military leaders' hands and the politicians have taken charge of it.  And so it's the same scenario and it going to end up with the same outcome, where this one is worse,  It's going to be much worse, because they have no plans of bringing your kids home.

 You know in Vietnam they brought your kids home, in Iraq they don't plan to.  It was their whole push to gain dominance there, the imperialistic control of the Middle East.  But Americans have never been imperialistic.  You know we've never been the type that we have to dominate the world.  America was just happy being home in America.  You know they keep throwing out this garbage that we have to protect our homeland from terrorists.  Well why don’t we absolve the current government, re-elect a new one and get rid of all the terrorists because it wasn't Iraqis or towel heads or arabs or anybody that attacked our towers here on American soil, it was our own government.  They planned it, they implemented it, and they blamed it on somebody else because they wanted a foothold in the Middle East.

 And it was the government, there was a huge lawsuit still going on with the families of New York who have finally been waking up slowly to the fact the government was involved with 911.  Huge lawsuit against them.  You don't hear a lot about them in the daily media.  You'll hear about it on the internet, but you're not goint to hear about real news from Fox News or CBS or ABC, they're all owned by the government, the CIA.  And between the CIA and the Mossad they own all the news networks.  And they even have one now that they've put up a studio in the Pentagon.  So you can get your propaganda straight from the Pentagon now.  Makeshift news in the Pentagon, it's not news it's propaganda.  And some of you have seen some of these videos coming out, these propaganda videos.  You know, sometimes you don't know if you’re waking up in America or if you're waking up in Russia.  A real fine line, I don't see a difference anymore between it.

 And so obviously you're not being told the truth.  And we could very well be at war in September, October, because the plans have already gone out.  That if there is another terrorist attack here in American which there will be and they keep telling you there will be because they're planning it.  When there is, Cheney, Vice President Dick Cheney, has given the military direct orders to strike Iran whether they're in fault with it or not.  So they're planning it, planning an attack they're not even threatening, since 911, that there would be another attack here.  And we know there is, because they're planning it.  They've sent out directives all over the place for the military to come up with scenarios on how to work more terrorist attacks here in American.  Supposedly scenarios they're giving is three strikes simultaneous attacks on three cities at one time or even up to fifteen.  And so they're working with the Pentagon on what the civillian response and the military response would be, if these attacks took place.  So you know they're just preparing.

 And one of things I found interesting is that, this has been reported in the Washington Post on August 8, is that what they've done is that a lot of people say is the Comittas Passe Act that prohibits the military from acting on civillian soil.  Well they have gone around the Comittas Passe Act to justify the military acting on civillian soil because of article 2 of the constitution that requires the commander and chief to protect the nation.  And so they can use that one phrase where he's committed treason all over for the last four years on for protecting the nation, to use troops on our own soil.  And so they're going around everything.  They're finding loopholes in everything, because the Comittas Passe Act of 1878 restricts the use of troops on domestic law enforcement.  But what they're going to do is say the commander and chief is required to protect the nation.  So they're going to go round it and use troops in that regard.

 Another thing they've done, is that they're expanding the national guard.  I think up to 128 units accross the country, they've been expanding the national guard.  So that's one other way that they're going to use troops here in America.  And the national guard has always been a civillian more or less type of military.  So that's what they would do.  Go to the national guard, put that under the control of the homeland security, and have their troops, their way in through that.  They're not necessarily going to be looking for legalisms.  They do what they want and they justify it later, and we've been seeing that for four years now.  You know if the commander and chief is required by law to protect the nation, where was he at 911, why was he behind the planning of it?  So ask yourself these questions.  They look at the constitution and laugh at it and spit all over it.  And they're going to keep doing it.

 Listener call in line 260-356-2611, if you have any comments or questions.  And it looks like Bush was in Salt Lake City this week.  He's defending the war in Iraq on Monday out at Salt Lake City.  And this is one of the things (unclear) statements he makes.  He says, "we must confront threats before they fully materialise".  Bush said in a speech to National Convention of Veterans of Foreign Wars.  It's like... I'm not going to finish reading that.  But that's what he said we must confront threats before they fully materialise.  You know this is one of these theoretic things.  Like that movie, I can't remember what it's call, where you're arrested before hand for thinking you're going to do something illegal.  I think Tom Cruise starred in that movie.  That's what it reminds me of.  You think of doing something illegal and you're arrested. (I think Sherry was referring to the movie "Minority Report" - Simon)  And he already states that his policy for the war, he doesn't have an exit strategy.  Stay the course it what he repeatedly says, and of course that's not a policy.  Stay the course, you're going to stay the course,  and on the other hand he'll say that they don't have, or they going to start pulling out.... you know he speaks out of both sides of his mouth.  I wish I could find that one quote he had.  Not in front of me.  But I thought it was interesting because it showed him in one day, what was it in two days, speaking out of both sides of his mouth when it came to the war.

 I wanted to read something that Mike Rodgers in Tokyo wrote and it was called "The Most Honorable Thing a Patriot could do".  And I just wanted to read the first few paragraphs of this.  It says:

 "Fight for your country my friends.

Fight for the poor and destitute.

Fight for the poor children who will never again have a mother or father.

Fight for the aged and the handicapped. 

Fight for truth, justice and peace.

Fight for your country.

Do not fight for a political belief. 

Do not lay down your life for criminals, liars and thieves. 

Fight to put those same criminals where they belong in prision.

Fight for your country.  Do not fight for someone elses country. 

Do not die far off in some foreign land. 

Do not die for the great of an emperor or king.

Fight to protect your homes and your loved ones, for there is nothing in this world more important than that.

As the good Lord blesses you with health, happy family and love and you one day die in your sleep as a righteous old man or woman, rejoice that you stood for truth in your days on this earth for you shall surely be rewarded by Him."

I thought that was a good testament for patriotism there.  And he was supporting Cindy Sheehan's cause in Texas.  And of course she has temporarily left her post in Texas, I guess her mother had a stroke.  But it's still growing down in Crawford Texas.  She will probably be back.  Protestors are still gathering down there.  A couple of senators, a senator who has just lost her son in May in Iraq, who had previously been pro war, now gathering with the Crawford camp in Texas to fight against the war.  And so I thought this was fitting that I read it, and when I read it here.....  This is a poem somebody wrote a letter that somebody wrote, "Not my kid", it says:

 "Dear Mr. President.

You are not getting my kid to fight in your filthy wars.

You are not getting my kid to burn from your radioactive weapons.

You are not getting my kid to opt in through high school.

You are not getting my kid through a national service draft

You are not getting my kid through another false flag op

You are not getting my kid with a $30,000 sign up bonus.

You are not getting my kid from your kiddy ROTC army

You've already got Cindy's kid and ,1845 other mom's kids too

You are not getting my kid Mr. President, go send your own."

And that was written by an anonymous writer.  And I think that sums it up.  You'll get our kids Mr. President when you send your own daughters on the front line.

 And that's what it takes folks is just a bunch of mothers in mourning that have lost their kids over in Iraq, and veterans fed up with it.  Veterans and those who have lost loved ones are the most effective in the anti war movement.  They wouldn't listen to anybody before the war started, back before the war started when all of us were talking about that it would be an annihilation and the war would never end over there.  And we were warning about the war.  Everybody called you non patriotic and ready to hang you up by your shoe strings.  And then a couple of years when it's exactly what we warned about years ago, now they can finally see that the wars going nowhere.  I don't know what they thought it was going to be a second Persian Gulf when you walk in and it's over in 8 days.

 Even look at that.  Over 500,000 – 80,0000 soldiers who served in the Persian Gulf War one, are now disabled, and a lot of them are dead from DU diseases and the radiation they suffered over there.  And now we've got the same thing with DU poisoning and radiation from this war, and in this war, you know the death numbers are totally defalted.  You have no idea what the real numbers are.  I heard they only announced 10%, so add 90% to whatever number they're giving you for a death toll and that's your real number.  Add 90% to that.  Also with the injured do the same thing add 90%.  And of course for Iraq they're not going to give you real numbers, but we've been hearing that the numbers in Iraq are huge.  And it's not going to stop here folks.  They have no love for life.  These are Satanists we are dealing with.  The only words they know is destroy, destroy and kill because they consider this all suffering and death and murder, as sacrifices to Satan.

 So it's not going to stop anytime soon.  If it doesn't stop, you know we're going to have our own war here in American fighting against a Satanic and corrupt government.  You know it's time for militias to rise, it's time to speak out, to hold candle light vigils on the whitehouse lawn, on the penta-lawn, on the Crawford lawn.  You know there's nothing more effective than citizens, just everyday grassroots citizens standing up and fighting against a corrupt government.  If Iraq doesn't stop, we're going to be in Iran next, and then we're going to be in Syria and we're doing this all for Israel, we're doing this for oil, we're doing this for gates, we're doing this for occultic reasons, not one bit of it has to do with protecting american interests.

 We weren't bothered before 911, we haven't been bothered after, it was all implemented and instigated by our own government for their own greed and occultic reasons in the Middle East.  And you know that's one thing you don't hear a lot about is the huge occultic push in the Middle East that the all the occultic reasons why they're over there.  Because of gates, stargates being over there in Iraq.  And in that airspace over there a huge stargate.  And so all these satan freaks want control of the stargate.  And as we see more of it coming up, I talked about the lions gate opening.  And all of this stuff is astological and that's why a lot of the warnings for last days signs are in the skies.  Signs in the skies.  A lot of this stuff going on that people don't pay attention to they just believe whatever NASA says.  And so you just have to dig for the truth, search out the truth and try to find out what's going on truthwise.

 You know, there's a lot of babble about indictments coming down for Bush, but it's not going to happen folks. I don't see it happening, until it's going to happen and what has happened already.  Just don't see it happening especially since you can't just indict a president.  He would have to go through impeachment.  And we've already seen the balls our congressmen have they don't exist.  You know they're changing votes in congress now.  Congressman have complained they're voting their votes are being changed and nothing's being done.  Patriot Acts are passed, nothing was done to stop them.  Do you really think an impeachment process is going to go through congress.  I really don't have faith in our congress at all at this point.  I don't think anything's going to happen as far as indictments go.  Big deal, frame them.  It was a nice thought, but it wasn't going to happen.  I don't see it happening.  Not unless the New Age steps in with their Maitreya and they have their own game and stuff going on there.  Whatever they want to do, whatever card they want to play.

 Number's 260-356-2611, I've got five minutes left in this hour or this half hour segment if you want to call in.  I've got an e-mail from one of the listeners.  I'll have to read this later.  Something about Fox News I'll get back to it later.  A couple of other e-mails. If you have a question specific for this show, just put it in the subject line, question for the show, question to be answered during the show, or something like that.

 Steve: Sherry.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Steve: Your guest is up.

 Sherry: Okay.  What we're going to do folks is take about a three minute break, Steve?  About a three minute break and then we'll be back with Tim White.  We're going to talk more tonight about the NWO and what their plans are for the upcoming months and what they've been doing. So we'll be right back in about two to three minutes.

 (break)

 And welcome back everybody.  With me is tonight is Tim White.  Hello Tim and welcome to the show.

 Tim: Hello, how are you Sherry?

 Sherry: I'm doing real good.

 Tim: I'm getting back a little late, I had to get my calling card and at my local (unclear) and the store was acually swamped with what I would view as mostly illegal aliens.

 Sherry: This is Colorado.

 Tim: Yes it is.  It's a very very serious problem.  The informed people or certainly aware of, the absolute influx from illegals from the southern border is definitely crisis proportions, of course this is all according to plan.  But now we've got border emergencies on the border of Arizona and New Mexico.  Arnold Swarchnazi is still wondering whether to have an emergency along the southern California border.  But I think that's something that's going to happen not by his choice.  He's going to be forced to because there's so many people in southern California who are so extraordinarly angry and upset with what's going on here, that they're going to have to stop the flow here.  And it's going to have to be done in a very ugly manner I'm afraid.

 Sherry: Didn't two states declare emergencies this week, last week, Arizona and New Mexico?

Tim: Yes and I forsee it happening in other states.  Actually it's not going to be involving in the border, it's just going to be I think something that's going to be happening because it's just such a serious problem.  And it's radically altered Colorado that's for sure.  It's radically altered the construction industry.  People that need to find jobs aren't.  It's (unclear) to a certain degree. I remember years ago, not too many years ago, four or five years ago, up in Aspen (unclear) and major resort areas around Colorado, the contractors were putting people on sometimes dozens and dozens on a homesite.  You know that might be a 10 or 15 or 20 million dollar home, that might be 150-200 people working on the home. possibly upwards of half or more would be illegal aliens.  Without green cards or anything, and they'd be working there up to about 28-29 days.  And then a phone call would be made to INS or something, and people would show up on the job and there would be a whole new crew needed because all the illegals were taken away.  And they didn't have to be paid either, so that was a huge thing.  Not something I'm certainly condoning by these contractors.  But now the minute men are starting to look to crack down on the contractors into allowing this kind of a situation to happen.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Tim: And so we're just being totally, totally overrun.  What's going on the border involving the zadists which are basically paramilitary forces.  And speaking with Dennis Bossack down in Deming New Mexico, who has his website ufolab, just put that into google and his site will pull up.  And he's been screaming his head off for years about what's going on down there..

 Sherry: I'm loosing him Steve.

 Tim: Pardon?

 Sherry: I'm losing him, I can barely hear him, he's getting fainter and fainter and fainter.

 Tim: Oh yeah.

 Sherry: I can barely hear you.

 Tim: You can barely hear me now.

 Sherry: Let me see if I can...  I've got my phone turned all the way up.  All right there you go, you're better.

 Tim: It's a cell phone I apologise folks, but cell phones being what they are.  But anyway the question is just heating up on just everywhere you look.  On every point of the compass has got a major serious problem that everybody's facing.  The situation with the chinese is an entirely different matter here.  And Denver has a big connection with what's going on with the chinese agenda because of the flow of technology.  I believe a lot of it was coming through Denver, was being facilitated through Denver connections here.  And I was just talking to a friend of mine in San Diego this morning, and he was reading me a couple of articles that had come out in a San Diego newspaper about major operations, construction operations that are now being conducted by Cosco, a China ocean shipping company.

 Sherry: Right.

 Tim: Which is the largest container ship fleet in the world.

 Sherry: I was talking about that last week with Larry.  If you get stuck at any kind of trainstop, you just sit and watch all the Cosco containers going by, and they're all owned by China.

 Tim: Exactly and they're moving approximately 48 million container units which are measured in 20 foot increments.  They're shipping over 48 million per year and..

 Sherry: And this isn't high chairs.

 Tim: Pardon?

 Sherry: People hear of Cosco and you think of highchairs and playpens and car seats, but we know that Cosco shipping containers, I know it's been aledged that they're moving in weapons.  They've been shipping in weapons for years.

 Tim: Well they started that when they took over Long Beach and if fact they actually started things probably before they took over Long Beach.  To which apparently this was officially done by executive order or presidential decision directive by president Bill Clinton when he signed the port over, supposedly a 36 year lease to COSCO.  This occurred in January 1998, this was after it looked like there might have been a chance of having it turned down in the house and senate.  But that precluded with an executive order.  And so there was already COSCO operations that were going on there for quite some time before that date.

 There was a friend of mine who was with the University of Denver, and he was also a naval reserve officer.  He was a sworn officer for a craft.  He would be called to active duty for 2 - 4 week stints.  And in December 1997 he was called to about a 3 week active duty period and that meant he had to go out to San Diego, San Diego Navy Base and North Island.  He's in uniform when he gets there.  He drives up to the gate at San Diego Navy Base and there's not a front guard at the gate like normal.  There's no guard post at all like normal.  And he's just aghast, because some months longer since he had been there, and that was totally removed.  And so he has to drive onto base, and he's looking for a particular place to go.  And he finally asks where he is to go, and he says, "by the way, what happened to the guard post?"  And they say, "Oh they took that out".   And he says, "Why? It's supposed to be a secure base.  People just can't get on the base".  And I guess what he was told was that they took the base entrance guard post out, and this occurred at other entrances to the base also, because they were having too many problems with drive by shootings.

 Now apparently they were having incidences which was involving automatic weapons at times.  So where were the gangs getting this stuff?  Well COSCO had been bringing in AK47s for some period of time to Long Beach even before they signed lease documents with the city of Long Beach.  Because the base was turned over, the Long Beach Naval facility at Long Beach, is the largest container port in the entire west coast of North America.  And it was regarded as a very strategic port.  But in September of 1994 it was turned over with the whole bunch of other base closings.  And almost immediately the mayor of Long Beach Mayor O'Neil started marketing it and the facilities to the Chinese.  And for the three years that it took for all of this deal to come together, she made 10 or 12 trips directly to Bejing, the mayor of Long Beach, Mayor O'Neil.  I can't remember her first name.

 But this was just a total outrage.  So there were various groups that got together in southern California to try and stop this.  And there was a major group that was out of Orange County.  They were numbering in the hundreds and I guess with the newsletter it was getting into the thousands of people that were part of this coalition of groups.  They were trying everything they could to try and make sure this deal never went through with the Chinese.

 But to get back to my friend that showed up at the San Diego Navy Base.  This really posed a big question in his mind.  If they're closing down guard posts to major military facilities and he's hearing that automatic weapons are being brandished are being used.  He heard other rumours related to what I'm saying about COSCO bringing weapons in in containers.  These were weapons that were manufactured by UNRICO which is an arms manufacturer that is 100% owned by the PLA.  And COSCO itself is owned 100% by the PLA, the Peoples Liberation Army.  This is the core of red China.  He decided that he's going up to Long Beach.  This was in a period when there was a whole lot of demolition going on simultaneous with a whole lot of new construction.  So he's goes up to Long Beach, the former naval facility at Long Beach, and he's in uniform still.  He goes to the gate.  And he's denied entry by a guard at the gate who is Chinese and holding an AK47.  Denying a US naval officer entrance.

 This being in December of 1997.  He was so alarmed, this individual's name is Bill, Bill's so alarmed, he never would call me, but called me from Long Beach and he told me this.  And he was just livid that this was occuring.  When you're dealing with this long range agenda here that the United States has been at work at for over 30 years now, since about 1971 or 1972.  I believe it was the year when Nixon went to China with Henry Kissenger to open up China for relations, political relations with the United States.  While Nixon was meeting with Mao Tse Tung, Kissinger was busy hatching all sorts of deals with Chou En Lai.  And at that time George Bush Snr. was special envoy to China.  This was clearly a skull and bones agenda.  It says so right in Anthony Sutton's book "Americas Secret Establishment, the Order of Skull and Bones".  It lays out the entire skull and bones agenda.  So what's going on from that period of time to now is purely a skull and bones agenda which strategic probes which go into what is being planned through all these various think tanks, pre-eminent of which is the Club of Rome.

 Sherry: Didn't Clinton also, pretty much, open up Los Alamos to the Chinese and sell a lot of... 

Tim: Absolutely, absolutely.  And all the deals that were done with Loral and with Lockheed and Martin Marietta, now it's become Lockheed Martin.  And we have a major, major facility here south west of Denver approximately 15 miles from where I'm sitting right now.  The Lockheed Martin missile manufacturing facility that manufactures the atlas series of large launch vehicles, for quote unquote, commercial or military or NASA payloads.  But there's no such thing as commercial payloads, I really tend to totally disbelieve that.  But then the titan series of missiles are manufactured there at Lockheed Martin facility.  And some of the major technology transfers to the Chinese were involving Lochheed Martin, Loral, many of the other aerospace companies, Norchwhipp, Grummon Norchwhip, Norchwhip Grummon I should say.

 Sherry: And these are all companies that also a JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory.  These are companies that are involved..

 Tim: Absolutely, this is all linked, I'm just talking about the aerospace industry.

 Sherry (Tim interjected with "absoultely" a few times): These are all companies involved with what we call ufos, that our government builds and makes their own ufos.  That's what I think they're doing is giving China a lot of capability because we know our government has their own ufos.

 Tim: Beyond what I'm saying here about the existance of, for instance Lockheed Martin, is the only large missile outside of the delta launch series that are manufactured in southern California and many of those missiles are also assembled here in Colorado but down in Pueblo which about 120 miles south of here.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Tim: But literally, Colorado is the home for the manufacture of these missiles.  It's the only facility of its kind in the entire western hemisphere.

 Sherry: You know what I think they're doing, is that they're buying, because we also know they're buying weapons and defence weapons from Russia.

 Tim: Oh absolutely. (speaking together for a few seconds)  the largest of the Titan launch vehicles are using Russian made "energia" engines which are the finest of its kind as far as thrust for size and weight, of those rocket engines.  But beyond just talking about the manufacturing facilities, we've had a situation that's existed in Denver here since the visit in the summer of 2000 by president Zemin, president of Red China.  And he was here for two days.  Now Denver is really thought of by most people as a nice place to live, mountains out here.  You know we have the stock show every year, we have huge stock yard facilities here.  Denver's always had this wild west still in the minds of some people.  A cow town.  But it's always acted as a good cover for what actually exists here.  But for the president of China to be here for two days, to have Mayor Wellington Webb roll out the red carpet, and I don't mean that as a pun, it actually occurred.  And present him with the key of the city and presume him to stay here for two days while everyone's asking him, "what's up with that?"

 There was a proposal that was put out at that time, of course it wasn't something that just came up at that time, it has probably been in the works for many many years.  Mayor Wellington Webb's Economic Development Office started putting out a proposal to the Denver City Council for the Economic Development Office to open up an office in Shanghai.  The Economic Development Office has other offices opened in other cities in other countries.  But we can actually talk real trade of commercial goods for these other cities, but when we have an office opened up in Shanghai, that brings up a whole different set of products.  That office was being bandied about for a few months.  It was being voted down by the Denver City Council.  It was initially being turned down, it didn't look like it was going to pass initially.  This was tying directly into other information that I had been gathering for the previous 5 or 6 years.  And I started linking what was going on with this office with other things that I knew involving the British that are here in Denver.  Involving MI6.

 That's actually what's in the background of the Denver Economic Development Office, has been for many many years.  In fact the Economic Development Office was attempted to get taken over by a british national from New Zealand.  She'd been in Colorado for over 15 years.  She'd been with the Economic Development Office for several years.  She was instrumental in bringing British Airways here to Denver International Airport.  British Airways is the british flag carrier, so that's very significant.  To make a long story short, because of this woman's acivities that I had been hearing about for the previous three years, I determined that she was an MI6 agent.  Her name is Donnie Turner.  Her real name is Bronwyn Joy Turner.  Her name is actually listed in the Denver phone book.  And she has two phone numbers there.

 This also (unclear) the british imperial plan, as the British has been involved with the Chinese for so many years.  Through the ownership of Hong Kong which had recently been turned over in 1997.  Everything is now in the orbit of the red chinese.  We have a direct link from Denver to Shanghai.  I checked on the internet today, and that office is still open.  And I started connecting dots of who was involved with the Economic Development Office and what their likely activities were.  I started putting this out in many many conversations over my phone.  This is before I even had e-mail address or on the internet.

 Sherry: Can we connect the Chinese owning any of our underground bases at all?

 Tim: I've not seen anything referencing that.  I wouldn't doubt it.  I mean we probably have had Chinese military touring our facilities in Colorado Springs.  I know for sure that we've had the Russians here doing exactly the same thing.  So I wouldn't doubt that we've had Chinese or dignitaries, so called politicians.  And all their politicians all have military backgrounds or they're actually in the military but they're undercover of diplomatic passports or whatever.

 Sherry: Yeah and this is all under the guise of United Nations moving soldiers here in the States.  Some kind of plan they had activated.

 Tim: Oh yeah, that ties in with the NATO ministers meeting that we had here in September of 2003.  That was in Colorado Springs at the Broadmoor resort which is very very well known world wide.  That was timed, NATO defence ministers meeting, was timed approximately three weeks after the brand new underground headquaters of the northern command opened.  The underground headquarters are under Peterson Airforce Base.  My understanding is that the defence ministers came in early enough, before the meeting came together.  Was that these ministers were given a tour of the base facilities in Colorado Springs.  Primarily north com headquaters, Peterson Airforce Base which is the US space command headquaters there.  And then my understanding is that they were treated to a technology experiment, technology demonstration, Shriver Airforce Base and that's where the space warfare center is.  They were given a tour of the capabilities that have been established in Colorado Springs over many decades.

 As we all know the military has taken on a whole new meaning now with homeland security.  Northern Command being the military cheek of FEMA, and military keep of homeland security.  And we have these facilities that are being toured by all of these various military and dignitaries of other countries.  When the defence ministers were meeting here, they literally had black uniformed security people keeping people away from their homes within a two block radius of the perimeter of Broadmoor, which is a sizeable piece of property.  But homes that are surrounding, larges parts, areas around the Broadmoor resort.  These are all very high-in homes of very well to do people.  But they were being kept from accessing their own homes for the duration of the ministers meetings.

 But what happened also at the defence ministers meetings, was that the final countries that were former soviet block countries, that had been under consideration of becoming members of NATO.  I believe that there were nine countries that were left, that were seeking to become members of NATO.  And one of those, I had already had in mind was Slovenia.  Now the reason I was bringing this up, was this ties into a document, this ties into an association of military forces that's coming right out of the Pentagon.  It's called the National Guard State Partnership Program.  And what that is 14 states, I have a book here, I should have pulled out the exact page, I could have read jsut one simple paragraph to put this in perspective.  We have the national guards of 14 different states aligning themselves in a military pact with 14 former soviet block countries, and  Colorado has partnered up with Slovenia.

 So at that meeting they had their official entrance, these nine countries that were left, that hadn't already been assimilated into NATO, their official entrance into NATO occurred at that time.  And they started also, they were talking about the new military alliances that they had formed up with new missions.  And some of these missions were policing actions under the NATO banner,  which NATO is the military arm of the UN in actuality.  No mistake about that.  This has to do with policing actions, and this has to do with the new agenda that northern command was created for.

 And northern command is going to be the command structure that's going to be utilising NATO forces, that are going to be used in this country because our troops are everywhere else but here.  And the ones that are here, they are not going to be used for taking care of us, they're going to be shipped out with the next confrontation we get in to which is looking like Iran.  If the neo con commu-nazis have their way, and it looks like they will.  They're doing everything they can to do so.  But the combat ready forces we have left in this country, they're going to be taken out immediately.  And then chaos is going to ensue with the crash of the economy that's coming.  So we are going to be policed under martial law by foreign forces.  This has been clear for many many years.

 Mark Koernke first came out, going on 15 years ago, in trying to warn on what's going down.  Mark being a former Pentagon analyst and privy to information and he started blowing the whistle on all this stuff.  He started producing a couple of video tapes.  One of them is called "America in Peril".  He was coming out with all of this and trying to warn what was going to happen, with coming down the pipe.  It was including the construction of concentration camps, the number of which is over a 100 major ones, and over 500 satellite camps that are now probably up to 600 in number.

 Sherry: Yeah they're just holding tanks.

 Tim: I'm talking fast here, I'm tying a lot of diverse information together here and the knowledgeable people are (unclear) me, I'm presuming.  And I'm not saying anything new to a lot of people.  But a lot is really a, when you say a lot of people, you really just have to figure how many that really is.

 Sherry: Yeah, we're just basically looking at all of the plans taking place.  They eventually throw this entire country into martial law, with foreign troops overseeing the citizens here.  And so many people just don't understand or realise what's going on.  They don't see the preparations taking place behind the scenes until people come on the radio and start talking about it.

 Tim: Yeah well my God, we've been arming our enemies, and this has been going on since the beginning of WWII and it hasn't stopped.  We've been arming our enemies ever since.

 Sherry: Yeah, and I think the icing on the cake was Bill Clinton opening up Los Alamos to the Chinese and then turning around and signing over their own seaport off the coast of California to the Chinese.  I mean that was the icing on the cake.  (talking together for a few seconds)

 Tim: Yeah that's not the only thing, because when the FBI raided Rocky Flats Nuclear Weapons Plant here, which is about 15 miles north west of where I am sitting, which is up towards the Dencer foothills, just before the foothills, a little bit south of Bolder.  And the Rocky Flat Plant first came on line, in think it was in 1952, 1953.  And what that plant was doing was manufacturing what was called "putts".  And these were made out of plutonium and were the triggering device of nuclear weapons.  So they were made all various shapes, various weights, various sizes.  And all those were being shipped to the Pantex plant in Amarillo  and that's where all the nuclear weapons in our arsenal were being assembled.  Amarillo Texas at Pantex Plant.  So all those putts were manufactured for many many years up until 1989 when the Rocky Flat Plant was raided by the FBI.

 Sherry: All right Tim, we're going to have to take a break here.  We're going to take a five minute break folks, and you just want to hang on the line Tim?

 Tim: Yes.

 Sherry: Okay, we're going to back in about five minutes for the second hour of this show.  We'll be right back folks.