Sherry Shriner Radio Broadcast - Reality Radio Network - 22 August 2005 - 2nd hour

And welcome back to the show everybody.  I'm Sherry Shriner.  That's Satan's bells ringing in the churches today.  And as the world pushes towards a one world religion with unified churches and an ecumunical system, at the same time it's pushing to world global political system, a global government.  And with me tonight is Tim White, and we're talking about this global government push, especially here in the United States.  Welcome back to the show Tim.

 Tim: Hello again.

 Sherry: And we've been talking about the New World Order and the United Nations and NATO and everything involved.  And just trying to give people a picture of some of the things that have been going on behind the scenes, that you're not going to hear about in the daily news.

 Tim: Well we left off  before the commercial break was... we were talking about what Clinton was doing with the nuclear weapons program at Los Alamos and you were mentioning basically opening up the labs to Chinese spying.  Which they didn't really have to spy since we were giving the stuff away basically.  And we were allowing the access to occur when the Chinese want it, (unclear) I think in a lot of instances.

 Sherry: Yeah, one of the things I can't understand is that we're giving them all of our technology.  They're just building anti defense systems against them.  And then they're wondering why the Russians weapons are superior to ours, because we sell off our technology.

 Tim: Yeah because we still don't have a defense against the Russian sunbird missile.

 Sherry: Yeah, the sunbird missile is the best one out there.

 Tim: Absolutely.

 Sherry: They've also got space weapons

 Tim: I mentioned before we went to the break Sherry, was what was occuring at Rocky Flats starting in 1989 when the FBI raided the place and shut the plant down for all of these totally outrageous environmental crimes..

 Steve: Sherry.

 Sherry: Yeah Steve, hang on a second Tim.

 Tim: ... all of these nuclear materials.

 Sherry: Hang on a second Tim.  Yes Steve.

 Steve: His volume level is fading on me.

 Sherry: Yeah.  Okay.  There's nothing I can do, he's on a cell phone.

 Tim: Where do I need to go here?

 Steve: I don't know if he's moving around or what.

 Tim: How much hasn't been heard here?

 Sherry: That's better.

 Steve: That's good there if you can hold it Tim.

 Sherry: Yeah stand there.

 Tim: Okay, I'll keep my head in this exact position.

 Everyone: LOL, LOL, LOL.

 Sherry: Can you hear me now?

 Tim: Can you hear me now, good.  I can understand why that commercial now.  What I was talking about was Rocky Flats and what occurred there, when the FBI came in in 1989 and raised the place.  They had over 80 agents that shut the place down.  And it stayed shut.  And what happened was that we had quite a few tons of plutonium that was there in storage.  By 1989 there was quite a lot of nuclear weapons program that had wound down, and so the production levels weren't quite what they were in previous years.  We had, I'm trying to remember exactly, but we had something in the order of 35 or 40 tons of plutonium there at Rocky Flats.  This situation with the investigation went on for several years.  But things really took a bit of a change after Clinton took office.  And he started providing the conduits through his absolute total treason, for the Chinese and the Russians to aquire further technology.  And actually I'm pretty sure that the Chinese probably were given technology way preceding what occurred at Los Alomos.

 What happened shortly after Clinton took office was that there was over a ton of plutonium that was taken from Rocky Flat and shipped to Israel.  And it ended up in Dimona in the Negev Desert.  And Dimona is where the Israelis make their nuclear weapons.  And it's strongly thought that some of that plutonium has found it's way into the Israeli made micro nuclear devices, that Joe Vyles so courageously exposed as what was used in the Bali bombing.  And it was probably used, possibly even though here's different theories at what happened at Oklahoma City.  But there's theories put out there.  And in fact Bill Eagle was talking about this in some of his programs, that another micro device that was used in Oklahoma City.  And possibly the same type of nuclear device, micro nukes tht was used at the World Trade Center on September 11 in the basement areas.  Because of the fact that molten pools of steel existed for somewhere in the order of two weeks or more.  Where the heat was so great that the steel in the basement literally stayed molten all this time.  This can be proved by many many people in expert fields.  And this came right out of Colorado.  Colorado made plutonium if you will.

 We've been just absolutely steam rollered, not just the people in this country but the people in the entire planet, have been steam rolled by this kind of criminal government that we've had for so many decades.  You can't say well this started during so and so's administration or so and so's administration.  I mean this goes way way back.

 Sherry: Yeah it does.

 Tim: There's not people here that don't have guilt, everybody that we can talk about as far as the president had guilt every step of the way.  (talking together)... responsible for some part and parcel of the entire grand plan that has been so unfolded now that people that are really paying attention, can almost predict with some kind of accuracy what is going to happen next.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Tim: But the people that are still believing that the government is for the people and the government's here to help us...

 Sherry: They haven't been listening to this show long enough then.

 Tim: I mean that's not the case.

 Sherry: Yeah that's not the case at all.  They're pushing towards a one world government.  Nothing anybody can really do to stop it at this point.  It's like a train that's unstoppable.

 Tim: I'm sitting in the middle of it here.  You know Sherry, Denver among knowledgeable people is very very well known as the NWO center.

 Sherry: Doesn't Kofi Annan have a residence there?

 Tim: My understanding is that.. I've heard two different locations on Kofi Annan's residence.  I've heard it in an area south west of Sedalia Colorado which is immediately south of Denver about not more than 18 or 20 miles and a little bit north of Castle Rock Colorado.  But south west of Sedalia over the first several ranges of the foothills somewhere down in the south part river area.  Somewhere in the area of Deckers.  But I've also heard that his ranch is in an area south east of Denver, about 30 - 35 miles in an area around Franktown or Elizabeth.

 But I think that it's a known fact that Kofi Annan does have sizeable property out here.  But many other of the shakers and rattlers and the bi-people reptiles that are the ones behind all of this scheme of enslaving the planet.  They are very very well represented here in Colorado.

 Sherry: And don't they plan.. isn't Denver Colorado actually supposed to be the east coast capital of the NWO?

 Tim: Actually the capital of the west.

 Sherry: West Coast capital.

 Tim: Yeah.

 Sherry: So the east coast and Atlanta for some reason, it's really not that..

 Tim: Well we have facilities here that Atlanta certainly can't claim and Denver has the largest federal presence of anywhere outside of Washington DC.  And it's been that way since the early 50s when Eisenhower established his western white house out here.

 Sherry: Oh definitely.  I've also heard from those in the know, I got an e-mail last year about huge underground bases being built in the Georgia region.

 Tim: Oh yeah, yeah.

 Sherry: (speaking together) relation to Atlanta, they've given me the mountains that they were going in.

 Tim: Yeah but what we have here Sherry, is the infrastructure that we have here, is unlike anything in the world.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Tim: Because we are a military communications, command and control center.  And we're also communication center for so called commercial transmission from cable or satellite dish.  And most of the major cable or satellite dish operators are headquartered out here.  And they have large satellite dish installations here.  The euphanism that's usually used for that is C3I.  It stands for communications, command, control and intelligence and we have it in abundance here.

 Now I've just recently read, the Buckley Airf orce Base, 10 miles east of where I'm at, is the most important downlink in the entire North American Continent or the entire Western Hemisphere.  Because of the structure that exists, the infrastructure that exists in Colorado Springs, plus what we have here in Denver.  Plus there's satellite facilities that are up in Meeker Colorado.  And it's all tied in with what we have here centralised, almost in the center of Colorado.  This is meant for the control of the entire planet and also meant for the control of space.  It's all here.  Not only that, but what we have under the oceans, our nuclear submarine fleet, they communicate through Buckley Air force Base here.  And all of that is transferred down to NORAD and also transferred to Northern command, the space warfare center, the US space command.  I mean it's linked.  We have hundreds of facilities at Buckley that are providing all of these com links to all of our nuclear forces, not matter if they're on land or under the ocean.

 Sherry: And that's where the GPS is also..

 Tim: GPS is controlled through Shriver Air force Base, about 39 GPS satellites are controlled from there.  That's why the Colorado Springs is such an important place for the NATO ministers to meet, because the police force, the military force of the planet is coming right out of NATO.  That's the whole grand concept of NATO, and the bogus dissolving of the Soviet Union, the bogus dissolving of Eastern Europe.  Everything has been morphed into a new farm, to hide, to fully deceive what's really going on.  If people think that communism is actually dead, then possibly that person's ability to think is probably dead also.  It's just taken a different form.  It's totally totally different.  It's been (unclear) the former communism we have now.  The top, literally the top communist that we have in this country, the top fabianist we have, and that's George Bush Sr.  And this is all fabianists agenda.  (speaking together) ... the process of gradualism of incrementalism.

 Sherry: Anybody wants to send Tim White a question, you can contact him.. I can read the question over the air.  You can send it to sherrytalkradio@yahoo.com either through e-mail or yahoo instant messenger.  If you want to send Tim a question or a comment.

 Tim: I could give my e-mail address since I'm so well known, everyone knows me as phantomforce69366@yahoo.com.  A lot of people know who I am.

 Sherry: Yeah.  Or you can contact Steve at realityradionetwork.com and he can read it to us over the air.  So you can get involved listeners, if you want to get involved in this conversation and ask Tim a question.  Feel free to do so.

 Tim: A lot of people might not know how to spell phantom but it's spelled the way it usually is.  "phantom", just like phantom of the opera.

 Sherry: Probably see your name in a lot of the yahoo groups lists.  I know you send out a lot of information on what's going on. 

Tim: Some stuff that I send out, if fact quite a lot of what I've done over the last two years, has been sending out information that I've (unclear) up from my own experiences from people I personally know.  Things that have happened to me, things that I've been told that I caused because of putting information out.  I got a lot of very high level people very upset when I started connecting the dots, related to the Denver Economic Development Office opening up their trade office in Shanghai.

 My girlfriend at the time here in Colorado, who I refer to as Colorado's illuminati pop princess because of her involvement with the medical marajuana agenda here in Colorado for over 20 years.  Her name is Doreen Bishop.  She had been involved for the better part of 20 years with somebody that's well known by the name of George Sorrows.  And this was in the medical marajuana agenda, the legalisation of drugs and for hemp, for paper fuel and fibre.  Now that all sounds very honorable and everything but George Sorrows doesn't do anything without ulterior motives.  And George Sorrows, because Doreen Bishop knows just who I am, and he's right in with this whole agenda to his eyeballs.  But he has created and is funding over 100 various foundations for all of these various social engineering programs.  A lot of them are NWO connected you know.  A lot of these programs are right out of Brave New World, 1984, and he's not the common person's friend by any stretch of the immagination.

 Anyway to get back with Doreen Bishop.  The Economic Development Office at the time of the visit of president Zemin, was headed up by a person by the name of Ron Burnstein.  Ron Burnstein happens to be the first cousin of Doreen Bishop.  Another very prominant first cousin of Doreen Bishop is Norman Brokaw, who is the chairman of the board, essentially the owner, of the William Morris agency headquartered in Hollywood.  Doreen Bishop, born and raised in Hollywood.  She's been an illuminati princess her entire life, obviously because she's born into it.

But Doreen, you know I would be talking several hours a day, and I would be relating to her what I knew up in the background of the Denver Economic Development Office.  And the real reason why that office would be opened.  And I had this confirmed years subsequent to the summer of 2000 that this office was actually being used as a channel for the transferrence of military top secret, above top secret hardware, technology, plans, documents, whatever it took for Denver to do it's part in transferrence of technology.

And what is here, we have between Colorado Springs and in Denver, we have much more aerospace technology that's been manufactured here than what people realise.  And when we have this facility that I mentioned earlier, the Lockheed Martin missile manufacturing facility in Waterton Canyon in Littleton, and we have satellites that are being produced in (unclear).  In fact on CBS news one evening, I think about 4 years, 5 years ago, they actually showed a satellite that was being delivered to the National Reconissance Office, which is the largest operator of spy satellites, that are being used for worldwide survellience.  This is also part of the Echelon Network that is operated by BNSA.  But they showed, it was a $550 million satellite, that was manufactured here in Littleton at the Lockheed Martin facility.  And in the background was a huge banner, nobody really saw this before on he CBS evening news but there it was, the NRL, the National Reconnissance Office in a big huge banner up on the wall.  Now here to (unclear) the NRL was not even acknowledged as even existing.  So we're having this kind of stuffed in our face of what they're doing.

Sherry: Yeah.

Tim: And we're transferring our deepest secrets to the Chinese.  We've been doing it with the Russians all of these years.  We have this whole fast thing of them being our enemies, the Russians that is (speaking together).  Pardon?

Sherry: The whole cold war being a lie.

Tim: Oh absolutely, the architect of the cold war being General Reinhard Gehlen who was the head of the soviet intelligence apparatus that was run through his headquarters.  He was the top intelligence chief for Adolf Hitler.  And he ran the soviet division of nazi intelligence.  That, by the way, was all brought into this country as we all know by project paper clip.  He was the architect of the cold war, this whole false cold war, that cost trillions upon trillions upon trillions of dollars.  Millions of millions of lives under this false front that the soviets are our enemies.  Well we've armed our enemies.  They're much stronger than what's being acknowledged.

Sherry: Well they've always protrayed Russia as.. you know the same way they do Mexico.  The starving peasants, the out house in the back yard, the shacks, the loaf of bread that they're standing in line for for a week.  The way we portray them is far from what reality is.

Tim: Well there's a very interesting video tape that was produced by Terry Reeve, a former CIA asset and others that he was associated with.  And this video tape ran for over an hour and a half.  And it was showing what was done in Mexico with the Maquiladora, and the Maquiladora were manufacturing plants that were established by our wonderful "buy America first" corporations.  Manufacturing operations were being transferred out of this country along with millions of jobs.  This was the giant sucking sound that was mentioned by Ross Perot.  So the video tape was produced along the lines of what Ross Perot was saying about the giant sucking sound.  That's where all of our jobs, that's where all of our industry is going with the Maquiladora zone which is a 40 I think maybe 60 mile wide zone extending into Mexico.  And it's also north of the border also, people don't realise that either.  But you know these people are being paid probably about a quarter of what American workers were being paid.  You know they're working at facilities that are absolutely world class state of the art.  (speaking together) Maquiladora are being supplied through the services of COSCO bringing parts of all sizes and shapes and uses out of Japan.  But Japan now is outsourcing parts made in China.  And they're being brought in to the west coast ports and supplying the Maquiladora with parts that used to be made here, or the entire product that used to be made here, that are now being made everywhere else but here.

 And my friend in San Diego is telling me, to refer back to an article I was reading about what COSCO was doing in Mexico.  They're enlargening and deepening the port in Ensenada, adding new docking facilities, two huge cranes to offload the containers coming in off the COSCO container ships.  They're also doing a rail line in from Ensenada, and I believe it's running up the collector cal, so they're going to be bringing goods into southern California.  And I'm sure they're going to be doing it on the NAFTA highway that is due to be completed, coming up from the south going all the way up into Canada, through Texas and all the states north of Texas.  I believe this is, I'm trying to remember the exact interstate route, but it's being widen with flood lanes going in each direction, at least for certain parts of the road.  This is for the transferrence of goods being made in Mexican Maquiladora, that's being brought into the United States and being brought into Canada.  And this is all under the auspices of NAFTA and CAFTA and GATT and the World Trade Organisation.

 It's marginalizing everything.  We don't have borders now.  Literally, we don't have borders now.

 Sherry: Yeah, we've been building a highway, expanding one from Mexico through Texas.  And I've been hearing a lot about a new highway going in down there.

 Tim: Yeah they call it the NAFTA Highway.

 Sherry: I got a question for you from a listener.

 Tim: Go ahead.

 Sherry: They want to know, "do you believe in ufos and if so, what is the basis of your belief?"

 Tim: Well certainly ufos are a real thing.  I think that ufos have been here, in fact ufos in many conversations I refer to ufos as something different.  So that the wrong idea isn't taken by people who aren't quite informed or people that are actually skeptics.  So I try not to use ufo actually.  I try to use extremely advance aerospace technology.  When talking about aerospace, we're talking about the air above us, and then space being beyond our immediate confines of this planet.  The capability is absolutely there.  I believe we have at least three different varieties.  That which is made here by our technology, virtually all of it coming out of the head of Nikola Tesla.  We have aerospace vehicles that are back engineered of alien origin.  And we have aerospace vehicles of alien origin that we still don't know who operates them in reality.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Tim: But we've had interaction with alien species for so many years now.  We have interactive US alien bases.  Dulce would probably be the one that comes first to mind in that.  Yeah absolutely if you want to call them ufos they absolutely do exist.  I think the agenda for the use of ufos is multi fold, you can't say it's this or that.  But that technology has been used against us and is being used against us.  And they're going to come right out in the open and actually use it against us, just like the movies are preparing us for.  Those movies are nothing but conditioning movies.  That's what Hollywood is used for.

 Sherry: "Signs", comes to mind.  The movie "Signs".

 Tim: I've not seen that but I'm not a big movie goer myself.  I don't send my money to Hollywood.

 Sherry: They made a blunder with ET.  They brought him out as a cute, cuddly, you want to take him home to your kids ET.  But they had to come out with "Signs", to make it a lot more hostile.  Give people a reason to be afraid of them because when they originally created ET they were under the impression that these aliens were nice.  And they learned they weren't, so they came out with "Signs".  Try to backtrack a little bit.

 Tim: Yeah, so you know depending on... you can get into the Pleiadians, you know and he's been visiting Billy Meyer, they don't certainly look like the bug eyed little grey men.

 Sherry: Yeah, well there's different types of races of aliens and I've gotten on this show plenty of my websites displayed.  You have your humanoid and you have your enki  and the enlil and of course Sitchin screws it all around.  Skritchen get's everybody confused on who's what and what's what.  And so I never read Sitchin, he's just disinfo, he's government disinfo.  He's touting the whole theory that mankind was created by alien test tubes.  You can go in the bible codes for ten minutes and discredit Zacharias Sitchin.  So I don't even read his material, but I hear a lot from other people who do and what he says.  That's why I've got over 50 articles on my websites alone.  sherryshriner.com and of course the thewatcherfiles.com, dealing with the different types of aliens and the groups.

 Tim: Well they absolutely do exist.  I mean I've not come face to face with an alien.  The closet thing to an alien I came face to face with was with a cyborg and that was back in June of 1997.  In fact my experience I related to Abe Delick and his response to my experience was extremely interesting to say the least.

 Sherry: Do you see a lot of ufos in Denver?

 Tim: No our people that somehow are tuned, I'm not in a situation where I'm working right now to be really observant of the star like I used to.  There's a lot of other people that I'm aware of that have seen them.  In fact there's a website, I'm trying to remember, I think you know the name of this website.  It's run by a fellow out in Denver whose last name is Greenwald.  Yeah, I'm trying to remember... I can't remember offhand.  I was thinking of that very site last week but I didn't write it down.

 Sherry: Most people don't realise the huge population of new age and Satanists that you have in Denver.

 Tim: Oh yeah not just in Denver but Colorado as a whole.  And one of the major major centers.  In fact when you talking major new age centers I'm talking planet y here.  I'm talking Crestone Colorado which is on the eastern side of the St Louis Valley, which is south west central part of Colorado.  It's an area that, the St Louis Valley is nearly 9000 sq miles so it's larger than the State of Massachusetts.  And on the eastern side, the north eastern part of the St Louis Valley is almost at the very north eastern tip, is the great sand dunes, which are the largest sand dunes, I believe they're the largest sand dunes in the Western Hemisphere and not just North America.

 Sherry: I have another question for you.

 Tim: Crestone is a little bit east of there.  There's high high ufo activity, that's in that area.  And there's a.. my understanding is that there's a satellite facility that are connected underground with the Dulce Base.  The large property owner in that area is Murray Strong.  And Murray Strong is the defacto head of the UN.  Kofi Annan is nothing more than a little puppet.  Murray Strong is actually the defacto ruler over the UN.  He's very very closely associated with Mikhail Gorbachev, Prince Philip, Prince Charles.  These people at the forefront of the so called environmental movement.  This goes directly to the heart of the UN treaty of biodiversity, but that's part of the grand deception of what the biodiversity treaty is all about.  And the net bottom line of that document, which is 1060 pages, is depopulation of earth by 80% plus, and for the re-wilding of the planet.  Now that term re-wilding is just starting to get some legs now.  It's been out there for many many years.  This is all Club of Rome agenda.  This was really put into motion I believe in 1992 at the summit in Rio De Janeiro, that was headed up by Murray Strong.  This I believe, if my memory serves me right, that meeting in Rio De Janeiro is off agenda 21.

 Under the UN treaty of biodiversity, the implementation of that is in full swing.  It can be seen in many many parts of this country and the people that wake up to what's going on, usually start to see it when they enter many of the national parks that we have here.  Where the carved wooden signs that usually denote entrance into a national park.  For instance here in Colorado they finally put the sign up.  Not too long back, they tried it several years ago, but what it says on the sign, "Rocky Mountain National Park - a UN Biosphere Preserve".  They tried putting that sign up several years back, and there was an absolute uproar.  That sign was taken down about as fast as it got put up.

 Sherry: Yeah.  Well residents in Florida have been throwing a fit for years about the UN biodiversity.

 Tim: Yeah, well I was watching seven years ago, I was watching one of these AAA travel logs that they have on TBS.  And you know various national parks and showing the average American family, 2.5 kids with the plastic wood panel station wagon, with the luggage rack on top, entering Great Smokey National Park.  Right at the beginning of the program was Great Smokey National Park - a UN Biosphere Preserve.  So these signs have been going up for quite a number of years.  And not only that, we're dealing with world heritage sites also, the UN World Heritage Site.  They actually have these signs at the Statue of Liberty Monument.  They have that at Independence Hall.  I mean, we have been taken over by a UN agenda.  It's been that way ever since the UN was created in San Francisco and they raised the UN flag for the first time in, when was it, September 1945 in San Francisco I believe it was.

 Sherry: I have a listener question for you.

 Tim: Go ahead.

 Sherry: Does Tim know if the Denver area has a Bohemian Grove type secret local area and whatever's (unclear) Bohemian Grove?

 Tim: Well not in the same sense as the Bohemian Grove is known to be, but there's lots of activities that actually do go on here for sure.  But it's under a different venue and a different cover.  And probably the thing that comes out most in mind is what's know as the Kimball Castle, south of Denver in Sedalia, the same town that I mentioned a little bit earlier when Sherry was asking where Kofi Annan has a residence here in Colorado.  But this Tweet Kimball Castle, Tweet Kimball was a very well placed woman in the scheme of things.  Her husband Meir Ruddick was with the CIA.  And I'm trying to remember the person that... Frank Wisner.  Frank Wisner was a very close friend of Tweet Kimball's husband, Merritt Ruddick.  Frank Wisner was the one that was heading up for the OSS, he was the one heading up the importation of the paper clip nazis into this country.  Meetings were being held at Tweet Kimball's castle, south of Denver here, very high level CIA meetings that were being conducted here.  And as many people that were coming through.  High level people that were former card carrying nazis.  Not that they ever really quit because they still are, the ones that are still alive.  And not to mention the fourth reich nazis that have come into being with project paper clip.

 And what is conducted there, now this is information that I'm originally the one feeding this information to Mr federal whistle blower himself, bogus Stew Webb.  Stew Webb started talking about Tiffany Lamp meetings.  Now I had heard about Tiffany Lamp meetings.  Tiffany Lamp meeting are conducted in other locations, besides Tweet Kimballs Castle which house many..original Tiffany Lamp within the castle.  There are other locations.  There are states where there are many Tiffany Lamps that exist.  Probably Fritz Springmire might be the best source for other locations where Tiffany Lamp meetings could be held.  Unfortunately Fritz is in prison.  Set up on 100% bogus charges.

 But to get back to Tweet Kimballs Castle, where very high level satanist meetings are conducted there on the summer and winter soltices.  And Stew Webb keeps on saying, "well you know everybody's got to grab a camera and take photos of all the limosines showing up".  Well these people show up at the Kimball Castle, but it's not on the surface.  That castle is connected underground with tunnels, and I'm sure, I have it literally confirmed by another source of mine, it is connected underground with the Lockheed Martin missile manufacturing facility which is about ten miles as the crow flies due west of the castle.

 Sherry: And wasn't it Anton Mazey's son who said he spent a lot of time growing up at that castle with his father?

 Tim: Well that's supposedly the story that's out.  I wouldn't doubt that a bit.  But Stew Webb has on his site Kimball Castle with a photo up there, and there's an article from that, and I'm not promoting Stew Webb's site.  Sherry knows and other people that are listening that know the situation between myself and Stew Webb know, I am certainly not promoting Stew Webb's site.  There's a (unclear) situation with Stew Webb.

 Sherry: We're favorites of Stew Webb aren't we?

 Tim: Oh boy!  The article that is linked with that called, "The Prime of Tweet Kimball".  And this gets into what I'm talking about here.  But that article was authored by a independent journalist friend of mine by the name of Joe Calhoun.  But Stew Webb has taken it as his own information, and other information that I got from other people here in this area.  I'm the one that pieced together where these Tiffany Lamp meetings were being held tied in with the Kimball Castle, and this was before I knew of this article by Joe Calhoun.

 My background as a custom craftsman on the very high end.  I have many many millionaires, probably 5 or 6 billionaires thrown in among my cliental.  And over all of the years I picked pieces of information and added it to the sum total of what I've come to know over the last 15 years, but certainly over the last 10 most especially.  And some of what I've learned, actually goes back to what I learned while I was in Vietnam and shortly thereafter.  After I got back from Vietnam.  And I started connecting some dots with some other information that I was looking into.

 So I can go backward and forward in time with what I know, according to what particular subject, or even a particular name, what I could add to that.  I guess it all starts with my being in Vietnam and when I was in Denang and I determined one day I was going to find out what happened there, why, who was behind it, what were the real purposes for the war.  Little did I know all of these years later, 35 years later, that I would be in the position I'm in now, knowing what I know now.  And being as angry as I am with what I know.

 Sherry: Yeah.  I do have confirmation of a link here.  Somebody sent in information from Greenwald's website on line.

 Tim: Yes.

 Sherry: It's blackvault.com.

 Tim: blackvault.com, yes.  Thank you.

 Sherry: A listener sent that in.

 Tim: But Greenwald, he's a Denver character, and he actually what he does for making money, he doesn't really make money with blackvault, but he's actually a Denver bar tender.

Now to get into some of the other things that exist out here in Colorado.  Back in June of 1998, Stew Webb had been hanging around me like the sleeze that he is for six months.  And we paid a visit one day to a fellow, a legal office of a fellow by the name of Declan O'Donnell.  Now Declan O'Donnell had his offices in a quote unquote former catholic church, by the name of St. Teresa's Catholic Church.  And of all addresses that this church would have was 3300 East 14 Avenue.  3300 being a very significant masonic number, 33.

 Declan O'Donnell has law offices there, and when we pulled up to the building, I was the one driving, on the 14 street side of that building was a very curious thing.  And it was the UNICEF card and gift shop.  I couldn't believe it, here was a UN organization with a card and gift shop within a catholic church.  Which by the way when we entered to go see Declan O'Donnell, we walked right by a still operating chaple within the church.  And we walked in because Stew Webb had some information that he had to give Declan O'Donnell because he was doing a class action lawsuit for the people that lost 10s upon 10s, getting into the 100s upon 100s of millions of dollars, that they lost in a CIA front that was known as M&L Business' Unions.  Declan O'Donnell also I find out later he's a very high level lay person within the archdiocese of Denver.

 Now while Stew Webb was talking to Declan O'Donnell, I was looking around the meeting room, and I'm looking at an erase board, like a magic marker erase board.  And up on the top of that was the Lunar Development Authority.  And I'm looking at that with great interest.  Then I look in the corner of the room and there's a braided United States flag, gold fringed United States flag.  A gold fringed Colorado State flag.  Peeking in the back of that was just a little bit of blue, that I recognized immediately as the UN emblem.  So while Stew Webb was talking to Declan O'Donnell I got up and started walking around the room to stretch my legs.  And I walk over there and I pull away the braided US flag, and I pull out the entire UN flag, hanging on a flagstaff there.

 But I also started noticing some publications that are on the bookcase there.  And one of these publications was for the United Societies in Space.  USIS.  You can put that directly into Google, USIS, stands for the United Societies in Space.  Also there was a publication of the World Space Bar Association.  The WSBA, the World Space Bar Association.  Both of which were created and headed up by Declan O'Donnell.  And so this told me a whole lot, and I understand from what Declan was telling me later after I talked to him for a few minutes.  But he got tight lipped because I was asking questions that were a little bit too knowledgeable sounding.  So he kind of buttoned up but they were looking to get a seat at the UN as an NGL, a non-governmental organization.

 You can look up these websites, you'll find out that there's extremely high people that are involved in this.  Many people within the space program, astronauts, all of whom by the way are 33 degree masons.  Declan O'Donnell himself I'm convinced is another high level mason.  But this is tied into an agenda that is all UN.  And this is for the control of space, the legal control of space.  And you're talking about establishing bases on the moon or establishing mining operations on the moon.  You know economic development of various kinds on the moon and mars.  But you know, it's already being done.  It's already been done.  We already have bases in both locations.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Tim: If not other places.

 Sherry: I have a question from a listener who would like to know, what idea you have for a time frame of how much longer this country has before we head into martial law.

 Tim: It really looks big, because anybody that's really watching things over the internet, I mean there are so many different scenarios that are being bandied about.  Various cities are being mentioned.  Estimated number of people they're going to kill, with bio-weapons or dirty bombs or backpack nukes..

 Sherry: They keep pushing the chemical attacks.  Do you think it's going to be chemical or nuke?

 Tim: We have a type of nuclear device, I think we're going to have possibly, maybe a neutron bomb type of thing which is going to kill people with a burst of awful radiation..

 Sherry: I've heard from credible sources that a chemical attack just would not fly, that it would dissipitate downwind...

 Tim: Too many atmospheric conditions that you have to deal with.  The model to create you know a scenario that would be workable would take every Cray computer that exists on the planet.

 Sherry: So you don't really think it's chemical either because I just don't, I think it's going to be some kind of...

 Tim: I mean the most powerful computers that we have outside of Fort Meade which is headquarters of National Security Agency, the most powerful computers exist here in Colorado Springs.  I got that again out of Bill Eagle out of a conversation two weeks ago.  And the most powerful Cray computers in existence are the new generation that was developed by Seymore Cray, when he reestablished Cray computers here in Colorado Springs, from where he was located in Minnisota.  Seymore Cray was probably the most brilliant computer designer ever.  And he got taken out, he was assassinated right outside at the entrance of the air force academy.  He was assassinated by car accident.

 Sherry: Build the computer then take him out.

 Tim:  Because he developed what's called the galleon arsenised chip, which replaced silicon base chips that are the basis of the brains behind any computer.  And it took many many years and many hundreds of millions of dollars to finally develop the galleon arsenised chip.  They were perfected, and as soon as they were perfected, they took Seymore Cray out.

 Sherry: Well we've got to wrap up this show Tim.  Is there anything you would like to say in the last minute or so before I have to wrap up.

 Tim: Well I guess I got kind of wound up here.  I could probably talk for another hour and a half.  Perhaps another time, but that's just a small part of what's going on here.  I could talk about so much other stuff that exists here and why Denver and Colorado Springs and Colorado as a whole has taken on a kind of significance that is over looked by most.

 Sherry: Yeah, everybody's looking at DC or Texas, and really a lot of the action and the main stuff going on is right there in Denver.

 Tim: Oh yeah, Oh yeah that's right, (music started playing) Denver's got a perfect covers as being a cow town

 Sherry: Thanks for being on the show.

 Tim: Thank you Sherry, I appreciate you for having me on and good night to all.

 Sherry: Good night, we enjoyed having you on.

 That wraps up the show for tonight folks.  We'll be back next week Monday night 8 - 10 eastern time.  Transcriptions of this show should be available for this week.  If my transcriber in Israel can get it to me.  As soon as he gets it to me, I'll have it up.  Thanks to all for listening we'll see you all next week 8 - 10.  Good night and God bless.