Sherry Shriner Radio Broadcast - Reality Radio Network - 08 August 2005 - 2nd hour

And welcome back everybody. 

 I have not heard if Larry has called in.  I did receive one of his e-mails from him, but I don't know if that was from now or earlier today.  So if he doesn't call in we'll just go on with this show. 

All right I just want to respond to something, a link somebody has sent me.  I'll just respond to this once and for all about this stupid idiotic stuff that pastor Harry sends out.  Harry Walther who claims he's a pastor, he is not a pastor.  He has never earned a pastoral degree.  He has never been to seminary probably.  He's a screenwriter in Philadelphia.  And so what he has done since he has left our show is spend most of his time lying and slamming both me and Reality Radio Network on the internet through his website.  He posted an article, somebody sent me this, he said to Zeph Daniel that posted it on his website. 

And he sets of with the fear tactics, "if you follow her," I don't have followers I have listeners.  I tell everybody, follow the Most High God not to follow man.  "You are aligned with the likes of Adolf Hitler.  She's part of the satanic system.  She was thrown of Paypal due to her anti-semetic teachings."  Actually folks I was kicked out of Paypal because I wouldn't take my teachings down, that expose the Satanic Talmud.  And what I do have on my website at thewatcherfiles.com is articles exposing what the Talmud says.  I have Talmud tidbits on it.  I couldn't even read them on the air here they're so horrible.  Things that they say about Jesus, about the Lord, Son of God that we believe in.  So I exposed the Talmud and forged wickedness and I wouldn't take the articles down.  And so Paypal indirectly owned I heard from Tim White, that George Bush Sr. indirectly owns Paypal.  I refused to take those website articles down and so they kicked me out of Paypal.  And so that's why I was kicked out of Paypal folks becaue I stood my ground, because I wouldn't bend to the Zionists of Israel who wanted me to take down my articles that exposed them for what they are.  I expose the Talmud for what it is. 

 And so then you have the likes of this Harry Walthers, who I'm starting to probably think is one of those Zionists.  Because he really came out against the serpant seedline theory.  It makes you wonder why somebody would just get his hair up in knots over a theory instead of agreeing to disagree.  Spends almost every minute of every waking day in anger over it.  I mean get over it.  You can agree to disagree on a lot of things.  He can't so there's a real problem there.  Some reason that he distorts everything that I teach, everything that I say.  Quotes me from the Jeff Rense show of saying the Bible is a hack job.  Well it is.  If you look at a lot of inconsistencies especially if you just read the Pauline books, all the inconsistencies, the double speaking, mostly in the Pauline books.  It doesn't the mean the Bible itself, the word of God isn't in the Bible, I totally believe the word of God is in the Bible, but I don't believe the Bible itself especially with the Pauline books, especially after King James a homosexual mason hired, and you're going to hear this from the New Age crowd when St. Germaine comes, how he authored the Bible.  You're going to hear a lot of stuff and it's going to come out.  So I do believe the word of God is in the Bible.  I believe He allowed things in it to test us, just as He allowed the Pauline books to be in there.  You can follow Paul or you can follow the Lord.  And yeah I would stand by that.  They try to slam it, they try to turn it around and twist it.  He's talking about.. no I don't ever say that anybody has to come just to me to hear what the Lord is saying.  I've never said that, but Harry thinks that.  But I've never said that.

 Let's see....I don't teach the breaking up of families or homosexuality.  And interesting that Zeph talks about the serpant seed because he has also talked about it on his own stuff, where he believes in it, so he's just changing his beliefs for the day.  "I used my followers, abused my influence to have his radio show cancelled by Reality Radio Network" (Harry says) and you know what Steve can reply to that himself.  I had allowed him... Steve had asked me before he even started a radio show if I minded if Harry Walther had a radio show on the network, and I didn't mind at all.  I said go ahead and let him.  And so he had sent in his check to start his own show.  He was going around, he had put this web page up on me, and it is their network policy that hosts aren't allowed to bash each other.  And it was totally Harry's choice to leave his page up and not take it down.  He chose not and he was refunded his money.  And basically I had nothing to do with that.  I didn't have to influence Steve over Reality Radio Network or anything.  So he tries to misquote that and take that out of context.  I never tried to censor anything that Harry had to say.  Let see... "Why I resigned as her co-host.  Because of the serpant seedline of Cain, I didn't agree with it".

 And he goes on to say...let skim through this.  Because I teach a white Israel, the white anglo saxon races, England, Germany, France, United States is the true Israel, which they are if you follow the true migrations of where the Israelites went.  So basically what Harry is saying is that it's not the United States, England, Germany, France, he's lining with prophet yeehaw.  I mean Israel's either a white race or a black race.  It's certainly not this dark skinned race that's dominant over there now, those are the Edomite jews.  Those are the Khazar jews, even the real jews over there will tell you that now.  So Harry needs to do some research, Harry needs to study a little bit.  Maybe even just ask the Lord for an opinion instead of giving out of his head knowledge all the time that he has little of.

 Let's see....And I don't preach against turning against Israel.  Let's see.. "Sherry Shriner writes and believes as do the Nazis and illuminati and Aryan hate groups that America will be judged because we support the satanic nation of Israel, the false Jesus the serpant seed but if America turns against Israel allowing Moslems to destroy them then God will bless America, really Sherry?"  Well you know what.  Look at ...who is Israel today.  Israel today and a Jew today is those who accept and acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Son of God.  Those are the true Jews of today.  And if you look at Israel as a nation they reject Jesus Christ as the Son of God.  And so I will stand against the churches.  Why should we protect Zionism, a serpant seedline Nazism that is Israel today, who reject Jesus Christ as the Son of God?  They reject Him.  Who is the true Israel?  The true Israel is those who have accepted Jesus Christ.  And that is the New Testament definition of who a Jew is, who a real Israelite is.  It doesn't have anything to do with the color of the skin or race.  They could be black, white, yellow, red.  Anyone who had accepted Jesus Christ, has acknowledged Him as the Son of God is one of His, is a true Israel.  And so all his other stuff is window dressing.

 So he's really just pushing and shoving and reaching to find something to slam me with.  Try to read through some of this other stuff.  And they just use this stuff to expose these people for what they are, and I don't know what's up Harry's sleeve because I never came out and really said anything negative about him once he left his show.   I didn't have anything to say about it.  I never have, and he tries to keep this stuff going and going and going.  And so if he doesn't agree with something I teach that's fine.  Get over it.  Agree to disagree.  I heard less vicious and hateful stuff from the pre-rapture crowd.  I think this takes the cake.  I think this takes the cake.  He's worse that they are.  If you don't believe in a pre-rapture then they all come at you.  And I think Harry takes the cake more than them.  Some people can't agree to disagree.  Some people do a lot more research than Harry's ever done.  Harry's just full of head wisdom.

 I remember back when we did the Christmas special, he wanted to do the entire thing on Santa Clause and why Santa Clause is so evil.  Well yes it is but the whole holiday is man's tradition, it's not of the Lord, and he didn't want to focus on that.  On the fact that the whole thing of Christmas, the whole idea of Christmas is not of God it's of man, he wanted to focus on Santa Clause, and so I had to handhold that entire show to keep it balanced.  Because who cares about Santa Clause when the holiday itself is not of God.  Santa Clause is just a window-dressing part of it.  And he had a very bullying personality, if I didn't want to do something he wanted to do, or if I didn't agree with something, he would try to bully me into doing it or agreeing to it, and I'm just not that way.  You know I'm not going to be bullied by anybody.  Harry has a very bullying personality.  If you don't agree with him you can see what he does, he'll slam you all over the place.  You know he had a partner from nine years ago he still slams and talks about, has stuff on his website about him.  From nine years ago.  So he had a definite problem with being able not to agree to disagree with anyone.  Picking up and moving on, getting on with his life.  He has a lot of anger a lot of hatred, a lot of bitterness.  Stretches and reaches and pulls for things to slam people with.  I didn't kick him off the show, he resigned and so why is it that the serpant seedline theory get's him so much tied in knots?

 You know you figure it out, you figure it out.  Why is it he get's so angry, I mean he probably shapeshifts.  He's probably getting so angry he's probably turning five shades of red, purple and green.  And I'm sick of fooling with him.  I'm sick of talking, having to deal with the issue of Harry Walther. All of them are nothing but pawns of Satan.  I have nothing to do with them.  If they were of the Lord's either way.  I really don't like spending my time answering critics.  I'll clarify things, clarify what I believe and anybody can read my articles, I have them all on my sites, I have 19 of them.  People are free to disagree, I've never told anybody to leave your family and follow me that's ludicrous, that's ridiculous.  I've never told anybody to follow me.  I don't have followers.  I have people that listen to this show, people that look at my websites.  I don't want people following me.  I'm just a servant of the Most High.  Follow the Most High.  Seek the Most High.  He will reveal the truth in all things to you.  And if you want to know the truth in all things is, then seek Him and ask Him what the truth in all things is, and He'll reveal it to you.  People are at different levels.

 When I first came out with my website against Paul, you know even back then I thought that the e-mails would be 100 to 1 hate mail, and it turned out to be the opposite.  People had always known that something was wrong with the whole thing.  When Paul says do what you want, he give you a do what you want, license to sin mentality.  It's simply not what the Lord taught.  You can take the red writing the red words of Jesus in either of those gospel books Matthew or John and line them up to what Paul teaches, they're two different things, two different gospels being taught in churches today.  The Lord has always says we have 12 apostles not 13.  If you want to bring Paul in, we've got 13.  And that's one area that me and Harry had totally agreed on with Paul, but when you introduce this whole serpant seedline thing he just goes in knots, he just goes in knots.  And so I really don't know why?  There's a lot of information out there on it.  You can read about the serpant seedline, you can read about the Khazar Jews, you can read about what Zionism really is.  Zionism being a middle east branch of the NWO in the west, and so it's all just one big Satanic alliance.  All of them working together.  And so why would we support a Satanic alliance?  Why should the churches be supporting a Satanic alliance?  You know, what is Israel today?  Israel is those who accept the Son of God.  And so I don't know why you have to put limitations on it.  I've never sat around and said okay this guys serpant seed and this one isn't and this one is and this one isn't.  I've just forewarned on the serpant seedlines and Lord Himself has said He has put bad seed and good seed and good seed and bad seed.  He does what He wants and you know what, to stretch it out and slam it and distort it and misquote it.  I mean it's just desperation attempts and so whatever.  If you need clarification you can ask me yourself or you can listen to my rebuttals of him.  I just don't sit and spend a lot of time on Harry Walther.  It's garbage and if you want to know what happened with his radio show, you can ask Steve at Reality Radio yourself.

 Steve: Sherry.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Steve: I'm going to have your guest up in a minute.  I'm going to call him back.

 Sherry: Okay.  We're going to have Larry Lawson on in about a minute.  Obviously getting some interference here.  I'm just not getting his e-mails.  Yeah he's calling in.  Getting a lot of e-mails sabotaged.  Such is the life in the internet I guess.

Steve: It ain't the only thing sabotaged.  He called me, I told him I'll call him back, now my phone line's down.

 Sherry: Your phone line's down?

Steve: I'm going to keep trying.

 Sherry: Whoever said running internet radio's boring huh!  There's always something.  You just learn to go along with it, or you could go crazy.  Yeah we'll get him on eventually.

 Steve: Sherry.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Steve: I tried calling him back and the line's hung.  So I can't even get a dial tone on the other line, so I'll keep trying.  Go ahead.

 Sherry: All right.  Thanks a lot.  They're boring themselves because I know the entire, a lot of underground bases and the NSA and a lot of government listen to this show, so you're just sabotaging your own entertainment for the night folks.  To them.. I don't know what we sound like to them.  Maybe we're amusing.  Maybe they sabotage because we're too right on, we hit it too right on the head.  Maybe that's why they try to stop it.  One minute they're telling you that you're crazy and they put people up against you, that will slam and come against you that will try to discredit you like they use Harry.  He's nothing but a pawn.  And next they're sabotaging the stuff you do so they pretty much verify though their own actions how right you are about them, when they attack every little thing you do.  And this is something that Larry's definitely used to, I'm used to, getting used to.  Guests I've had on this show, everybody's used to being hassled with.  Last week I sent a phone card out to a guest that was on the show, and she never got it.  It came back, the postage was ripped off.  Stuff happens, stuff always happens and so just another day in the life of not just the Lord's people but patriots.  I'm getting some interesting line noise here.  Is this line getting ready to go dead Steve?  Yeah you never know.  Just another day in the life of... Anyway if you have a question or a comment you can e-mail me at sherrytalkradio (@yahoo.com ( she didn't say it, but this suffix is needed - Simon).  I got an e-mail from somebody in regards to orgone Paypal orders.  I don't have a Paypal account so if you've ordered orgone through Paypal you've got it through my partner and she doesn't have a problem.  So no you won't have any problems if you've ordered orgone through Paypal because you send it to Rhonda Zeoli and not me.  I don't even make orgone, haven't in a long time.  She's taken over the orders.  So you have no worries.  You should expect your order within 3-4 weeks if you order orgone.  It usually takes that long to get you orders.  So if you've ordered through Paypal, you've ordered through my partner and not myself.  I don't know where Steve....

 Steve: Sherry.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Steve: Your guest is up.

 Sherry: Oh wow, okay then put him on.

 Steve: You there Larry?

 Larry: Yes.

 Steve: Okay.

 Sherry: Well hello Larry.

 Larry: Well through a miscalculation of Hoosier legislators I thought I had 15 more minutes to go Sherry.

 Sherry: Well yeah, it's 20 after 9.

 Larry: Well I feel like an idiot.

 Sherry: Well the good news is we have about 35 minutes, well 30 minutes.  Got a half hour left of the show.

 Larry: All right well.  Of course the big news on the internet as you and I both know is coming from some sources that we have to question very deeply.  Have you talked about this at all in the first hour?

 Sherry: Yeah, I've told people what's going on with some of the Stew Webb stuff.  I didn't really get into Stew Webb very much.

 Larry: Well it's critical to the understanding the credibility of the story though.

 Sherry: Yeah why don't you tell us, because I really... I'm hearing all different viewpoints right now on the internet, saying that he was indicted saying that he will not be indicted.

 Larry: Whether or not that actually comes true, the problem is the source of the information that Tom Flocco was going on.

 Sherry: Exactly.

 Larry: And that is this Thomas Hennigan, who is the buddy of Stew Webb who you and I both know the be a complete and total fraud.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Larry: Backing up just a bit, what I've done since 2000 or a little before is you know jump on the internet looking for alternative information and I decided to share that with people.  Because obviously our media has been lying to us about, just about everything.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Larry: So I would do this and I would share newsletters with others and people would share their views and I would post these.  And this has grown over a period of time.  One of those contributing was Stew Webb.  And interestingly enough back in 2002, somebody made a post in a (unclear) and suggested that Stew Webb was disinformation.  Well Stew Webb immediately jumped all over the post and demanded I retract it and threatened law suits etc and I'm not one that bends to that kind of intimidation and that to me stunk, something wasn't right.  So the more we looked at it, the more we looked at Stew Webb's associates the more we found that he was disinformation.  And Stew Webb's associates are people like Barbara Hartwell who has come on various radio shows and admitted that she is part of the Walker family as in George Herbert Walker Bush.  Now interestingly enough she is saying she is part of a different family.

Sherry: That one didn't work.

 Larry: But she attacked people like Fritz Springmire who has done a great deal of research on illuminati families.  Has done a great deal of research on MK ultra CIA mind control programes.  Fritz Springmire was setup and imprisoned on bogus bank robbery charges.  Interestingly enough before he was, another patriot by the name of Mark Koernke was setup and imprisoned on bogus bank robbery charges.  And all of this tied together, I kind of throwing out information rather quickly, but I've got to paint this picture for people.  Mark Koernke set up what is called Republic Radio to get information out on the NWO.  Mark made a series of video tapes called America in Peril.  Mark advocated preparing to physically resist the NWO.  And by that I do mean militias, defending oneself, organizing in groups, practicing procurring weapons and materials to do just that.  There's a lot of patriots on the internet out there that are advocating, spreading stories around of buying the latest videos etc but they respond in horror almost to actually doing something physically resisting.  Take a look at who the NWO has gone after.  You see who's in place. look at who they've gone after.  They've gone after Mark Koernke, Fritz Springmire, they've also gone after Bob Stuart who produced 50 calibre guns.  They've gone after Bill Cooper.  There's a whole bunch of them that they've gone after and either killed or imprisoned.  Many of them have been advocating self defense.  Many of them have been speaking out against Zionist control over our government.  And that's kind of the key there.  When Mark was setup and imprisoned, I was asked to do Mark's show.  And I did this for a couple of years on genesis broadcasting GCN which usurped republic radio.  They basically came in and bought everything out and usurped it.  Genesis was linked at that time to ABC and now the overtly openly linked to ABC.  You know people that are called in on some of the genesis programming to say that they were going main stream were countered by Alex Jones saying no they're not.  But take a look at the schedule now, it's pretty much mainstream.

 Sherry: I had a question earlier from a listener.  What I thought were my feelings of Alex Jones.  And I gave my opinion and I said when you came on the show, I had you give yours.

 Larry: Well this is what's interesting.  I mean Alex sounds good, a lot of these so called patriots sound good.  But interestingly enough Alex Jones sold a video tape of John Grey's home down in Texas who was trying to defend himself on his own property.  He turned around and sold that I believe was 20/20 for $20,000.  That was not a very Christian move.  Every time somebody pointed to the Zionists and Israel gaining from 911, which was a question Alex asked you know.  911 and who stood to gain.  Well, Israel, the Zionists.  We're not talking about real Jews here, there's a big difference between those worshipping the Torah and those worshipping the Talmud.

 Sherry: Exactly, that's what I have tried to state on this show.  And I have people like my ex-host who twist and distort everything I say.  You know, there's a big difference.

 Larry: There is a big difference.

 Sherry: Zionist and a real Bible believing Jew.

 Larry: And interestingly enough, Alex was not the only one who wanted us to shut up about the Zionist gain.  Michael Trudo who was the co-owner in genesis also wanted us to shut about it.  He spoke out often in favor of Israel.  And I spoke out against that.  Anyway what happened was,  John Stampmiller who formerly worked with Mark Koernke on the show the intelligence report, had a show on GCN and he called it the National Intel Report.  Mark Koernke's show was still going on GCN called the Intel Report, and Nancy Koernke was basically loosely keeping that show going.  The owner of GCN Ted Anderson had made a promise to Nancy as long as Mark was in jail, his show would continue on GCN.  Well enter John Stadtmiller who brings in this nut Stew Webb, who gets on the show and starts talking about a million Chinese robotoids.  You know who slammed you, myself and others that exposed his frauds on the internet.  We're not talking about little things folks, back in April 2003, both Stew Webb and Barbara Hartwell put out notices on the internet that they had filed a court case against George Bush.  You know that they were going to take him to court.  Well my wife happened to be a clerk up in Tipper New County and suggested the very simple act of calling the court in Colorado and asking for a case number.  Folks there was no case ever filed.  They lied and they were soliciting money for it, they were soliciting money for it on John Stadtmiller's show on GCN and I called and told Stadtmiller that and Ted Anderson and they didn't want to hear about it.  That's called fraud folks.  So anyway (can't make out a few words here) anytime you'd nail them on something they would just yell and scream and threaten murder.

 Sherry: They filed a lawsuit, they even filed a restraining lawsuit against us all as well didn't he.

 Larry: Well, Stuey put out a you know bogus restraining order on the internet with your name, my name and whole bunch of other peoples' that were talking about him.

 Sherry: And there's no such thing as an internet restraining order.

 Larry: Yeah, that's the thing, but you know some people are gullible enough to buy that especially if it looks legalese.  But it was yes again I had a relation with somebody who knew something about legalese.  This guy is a total fraud.  The guy couldn't even spell in half his e-mails.

 Sherry: Yeah, wasn't Barbara Hartwell editing his e-mails?

 Larry: Many of the e-mails she wrote for him and he would simply forward on, and then when he needed some backup, you know for example she wrote the letter from agent John, federal agent John.  Barbara Hartwell claims to be a CIA MK ultra victim and yet attacked Fitz Springmire who had very good information on project monarch and MK ultra and admitted that she was part of the Walker family as in Herbert Walker Bush.  But anyway, so this banter went back and forth on the internet for a long time.  Threats and threats to sue me, threats to put me in gaol and you and then of course they would slander us in anyway they could.  Stuey finally come and said that I'm a mind controlled DCS, domestic contact services or some horse hockey like that.  Folks I've been putting out information on mind control and Fritz Springmire's material for years.  I warned people on the internet shortly after the movie The Matrix came out, that it contain a lot of MK ultra triggers.  The very first one and they would likely see staged shootings here in the country.  Shortly after that we got Columbine.  You know it takes a lot of research which Fritz Springmire did to expose this.  Coupling that you have Ted Gunderson who Stew Web and Hartwell attacked viciously.  You know I don't know what to make of Gunderson, but I'll say this, he's put out some accurate information about the CIA and the finders and how they kidnap kids for the CIA MK ultra programmes.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Larry: And they attack him over these things and yet they want to pretend that they are the real whistle blowers and that they're against Bush too.  Well folks, you've got to understand who's really running the show here, Daddy Bush and Dick Cheney.  Junior's the idiot chimp in the driver's seat, snorting cocaine and driving us off the edge of the cliff.  His leash is held by Daddy and Dick Cheney.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Larry: And if you go to Cathy O'Brien's website which is www.trance-formation.com, this is material that was written long ago about Cheney and Daddy Bush,  the CIA MK ultra programme and how you know she was attacked by Cheney and Bush.  You know sexually molested and her daughter, you know 7 or 8 year old Kelly O'Brien was also molested by these pedophile freaks.  This is part of the perks of the CIA programme, they think they can do anything to anybody.  There are excerpts from the book there.  It's a very graphic book and there's a lot of people that don't want to hear these things or their mind will blank out.  They can't believe that a good little Christian like Bush would do these things.  Folks I'm sure you've heard this I mean he's a Satanist, he's skull and bones at Yale.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Larry: They've just hired another skull and bones person to supposedly oversee this federal prosecutor Fitzgerald.  That the information supposedly come out wanted to do indictments and legally I don't see how they could do indictments of Bush and Cheney.  The technical procedures, impeachment, conviction.

 Sherry: I've heard that they can't impeach him because he's not a legal president.  I've heard there's a loop hole there.

 Larry: There's all kinds of loop holes.

 Sherry: But even if they had enough information, and they had enough people that were willing to talk and could impeach him, they can't because he's not a legally sitting president.

 Larry: Here's a, well I do want to play this for people.  This is a few minutes of Stu Web, Stew Webb ranting here.  And I just want you to hear what this guy sounds like.  It's important to hear these things so that you know that I'm not making these things up.  And then we'll see what Alexs' reaction is and you judge for yourself whether Alex is a good guy or not.  Okay, here's Stew attacking Nancy Koernke, myself, you and a few others.  I might have to adjust volume but let me know how this sounds here.  Okay here we go.

(being played on an audio clip with Stew talking)

 Stew Webb: "Ted Gunderson, Tom Gaul, Brendon Nidery, Tim White, Larry Lawson, Doug Mollan, Ken Adachi, Sherry Shriner, Tom Borchers, Nancy Koernke, Jimmy McCall and Pam Schuffert.  These are the one that are hooked up to Ted Gunderson.  Every time that they start coming out of the woodwork, you can tell because I mean believe me I've been a target of every one of them.  I know what I'm talking about and I've got the (unclear) in the evidence.  That Gunderson's on the payroll of the DCS,  Nigrey's on the payroll of the BCF, Tim White's on the payroll of the FBI in Denver.  Terry Walton he's a mind control of the DCS.  Doug Moore's on the FBI payroll of San Francisco, Ken Adachi I don't know who's payroll yet he's on I just know he's liked a lot of Ted Gunderson's spin stories and Sherry Shriner along with him.  Now all of a sudden we've got talk show host Tom (something), Nancy Koernke and Jimmy McCall a reporter are all jumping in the bandwagon.  These spin doctors forum and I find that kind of ironic.  Troubles me a lot.  And I tell you, I haven't been happy in the past with Nancy Koernke because Nancy stuck me up on a show that I was supposed to be against.  Then made it look like I was cowering for credibility purposes of her show.  And maybe for ten minutes, I did some pre-shoots which she had done.  Now that was over a year and a half ago and I said I'd never do another show again with the woman because she isn't credible.  So anyway I'll leave it at that."

 Larry: Did that come through pretty clear?

 Sherry: Yeah, I heard it.  What's interesting is that this was in 2003 and the first time I had ever talked to Ted Gunderson was 2004.  He was going to come on the show, I think it was in January of last year, this year.

 Larry: Yeah this happened shortly in November 2003 when we got kicked off of Genesis.

 Sherry: He's (Stew Webb) always one of those people that reaching for something.

 Larry: Well and he's making all this crap up.  Ask him to verify and prove any of it.

 Sherry: He says "I have proof", well let's set it.

 Larry: Yeah.

 Sherry: How do you prove something that there's nothing to prove on?

 Larry: He sounds good etc.  So you kind of got a flavor for Stew Webb.  He's making all of this crap up.  Okay what I did, I knew that this flake was coming on GCN with Barbara Hartwell.  The last clip you heard was from 2003, done shortly after our showed moved from GCN to Truth Radio because we were kicked off.  Clay Douglas hosted Nancy Koernke and myself.  And you know at that time a guy by the name of Jeremy Floyd was there with Stew Web who had also been booted off Genesis.  These are some very interesting events folks you've got to question what happened at Genesis.  John Stadtmiller moved Stew Web from his show to Jeremy Floyd's at Genesis and it was on Jeremy Floyd's show that I knew Barbara Hartwell was coming on.  And I knew that she was disinformation so I decided to call into Alex Jones' show.  And this is after I had warned Stadtmiller and Ted Anderson etc and tried to warn Alex.  Alex's buddy was Stadtmiller.  Stadtmiller protected his back over the John Grey story and by the way folks I have all of this information documented.  If you've got a pencil handy my e-mail address is hitech1@bluemarble.net.  Now this is I believe me calling into Alex's show warning on about Hartwell coming on to spread disinformation.  Here we go:

(playing audio clips)

  Alex: Indiana, Larry you're on the air, go ahead.

 Larry: Alex I heard you talking about Craig Robert yesterday and I think that was a very good topic.  You know some might consider that (unclear) important to know that you do have to something even if the odds look like they're against you.  The way I read the bible though we may not win this especially if we don't wake up enough people up.  You got to know even though the odd are against you, you've still go to defend your family, you're still have to try because you are going to answer for what you do.  I also wanted to thank you for staying pretty much on topic, there's a lot of hosts that budding topics of aliens and you know a million Chinese robotoids coming across the air and it's important to maintain credibility enough, and not make patriots look like idiots through these kind of topics that are getting out.

 Alex: Well that's done to discredit wider topics to mix things in that can't be proven.

 Larry: Okay that wasn't the clip where I called in.  Let's see...

 Alex: You're on the air go ahead.

 Larry: Yes, your offer to disagree with something still open Alex?

 Alex: Sure it is, go ahead.

 Larry: Okay.  I agree with you about that rat poison being partial truth mixed with lies.  I agree with you that Fritz Springmire is a good guy who had (unclear) put out on mind control and illuminati.  I agree that (unclear) Chinese robotoids are smoke screens for larger topics.  So is it a bad thing to point out that we shouldn't be listening to people perpetrating these things, like Stew Webb is going to do on Jeremy Floyd's show.

 Alex: You know something.  We've got the NWO to fight..

 Larry: They are the NWO Alex.

 Alex: and I not going to have, I'm not going to have people stir up stuff on my show against this radio network.  I've got the NWO to fight.  I don't sit here..

 Larry: They are the NWO Alex.

 Alex: Let me assure you that that network is not the NWO and

 Larry: Barbara Hartwell CIA is not the NWO?

 Alex: Who?

 Larry: Jeremy Floyd is going to have Stew Webb with Barbara Hartwell who is CIA cutting down Fritz Springmires spreading disinformation this evening.

 Alex: No that's... I'm listenin to it.  I'll call in and disagree with him and I appreciate your call Larry.  Look folks, I'm not going to sit here.  This show's been successful.  I'm not....

 Larry: Anyway he goes on to pat himself on the back and spin the story.  I had basically gotten out what I wanted to get out.  And interestingly enough, Hartwell and Web came on, Alex called into Jeremy's show and told them to get them off the air.  You still with me?

Sherry: Yeah.

 Larry: Okay.  So he did at least do that.  But then John Stadtmiller and Alex Jones tried to turn around and imply that I on Mark Korenke's show was the co and tell pro.  They had booted Web and Hartwell off the air, then booted Jeremy Floyd's show off Genesis.  And then you had Alex and Stadtmiller, let's see if this is the clip here... Here we go...

(playing audio clip)

 John: ... meanwhile people who are supposedly on our side, that are supposed to be supposed to be concerting all the ammunition down range to destroy the enemy, that seems fit to sit round and scratch each others eye's out. I am amazed.

 Alex: Well that's really it.  I mean that is really it.  What is co and tell pro, stirring up fights, stirring up rumors, attacking people, telling lies (unclear).  Who's affecting change?  Who's getting bills thrown out.  Who's getting the Patriot Act repealed in cites?  Who's bringing out new talk show hosts?  Who's networking and fighting and being positive?  That's your patriot.  Your evil people are those saying they're patriots but spewing out with ridiculous (unclear) lies. But the good news is there's people are not paying attention to that.  They're moving forward, people know things are wrong.  They know we're under attack.  They don't want to hear the propaganda that's been to neutralize them and to get them to hesitate.  The key is folks you know your good out there.  You get in the fight and believe me, that's the message the globalists don't want to hear.  When you hear that message you know you're listening to the right thing.

 Larry: Now did you hear what he advocated folks?  Who's getting shows on the air, who's getting the patriot act repealed in counties.  Well let me tell you when they declare martial law and come rolling through with tanks and guns, you think they're going to care one iota about that little resolution you passed in your town hall?

 Sherry: I have a petition standing on the internet for two years now.  Yeah it doesn't make a real huge difference, but at least your name's out there standing against something.

 Larry: The reason they're doing this is, is they don't want people advocating physical resistance.  Oh you can talk all you want, you can point your fingers at Bush, but they're going to turn around and throw you in these FEMA detention camps or shoot you in the head or shoot you with a vaccine, unless you are prepared to physically resist.  That's mean shooting them in the head.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Larry: That's what Mark Koernke advocated, that's why they wanted him out of there and that's why you have people, even like Dave VonQuiste admitted, gosh we had all these government disinformation types and all these groups.  We've been lied to, I think all those groups should get back together.  Except maybe the militia groups.

 Sherry: Yeah, that's something I've advocated is self defense.

 Larry: That's Biblical.

 Sherry: And yeah, standing against these freaks and doing something about it.  I talked about the type of rifle to use the M 1A which is a civilian version of an M16.  It's the most effective.  Yeah I've talked about it a lot on this show.  I had a good question from a listener on where is Mark Koernke now?  He's still in jail?

 Larry: He is still in prison, but that's my understanding, I've never seen him.  I'm here in Indiana.  My understanding is he's still in the Kenslow former... See this is what is interesting Mark warned people that they were shutting down military bases and turning them into detention camps.  Where's Mark now, supposedly he's in the Kenslow airforce base which was a former military base now turned into a prison just as Mark warned.  I really suggest that people get with Nancy and order Mark's videos.  You know Alex had come out with the video club.  How many videos do you need folks?  At about 25 or 30 bucks well you can get all three of Mark's America in Peril series which are about 2 hours each.  See how prophetic he was.  See why the NWO wanted him out of the way.  You can contact Nancy Koernke at 734-4249335 and if you miss anything e-mail me at hitech1@bluemarble.net.  In order to find the truth because there's so much of this garbage out on the internet and it's taken me along time to discern this.  Watching the John Carpenter movie "They Live".  In that movie they put on these special, what they call Hoffman lenses and they can see these quote, aliens running the show.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Larry: But there was so much imagery and so much NWO messages in that movie that I highly recommend checking it out because it's exactly the way it is.

 Sherry: It's a classic.

 Larry: But you know over a period time, you know one thing that's clear, birds of a feather flock together.  These creeps ally with each other.

 Sherry: Yeah.

 Larry: We've seen Barbara Hartwell ally with an online John Birch Zionist.  You know, very friendly I might add.  You know he openly allied with him as long as she pushed John Birch material.

 Sherry: Yeah, he's one of the guys who joined my lists and got booted off, he was just so obnoxious.

 Larry: Yeah and there's all kinds of disinformation out there on the internet.  Everybody's protecting certain agendas.  Some of these patriots are just after money, but others seem to be pushing covert agendas.  You know what bothered me about Alex Jones, he said he never lies, well I can show you several places where he lied.  Later I called in to his show and this is kind of classic, let me see if I can find this one here.  From what you just heard... anyway I called back in and asked him what had happened to Mark Koernke's show that was on Genesis.  He didn't recognize who I was for a while.  And he's always a big man when he hangs up the phone on you, and he started spinning the story saying he didn't have any control over Genesis programming and yet he was the one that called and got Jerry Floyd's show cancelled and got Hartwell and Webb off he air.  Well that certainly seems like influence over the programming to me.

 Sherry: What's your thoughts on Jeremy Floyd?

 Larry: Well again here's another person that absolutely did not want to hear about the fraudulent nature of Stew Web.  When somebody is that hard headed, you know they're either tremendously stupid or they have an agenda.

 Sherry: Yeah well he came and misquoted, took a lot of me out of context.  He came against the story in one of his newsletters about the Bible codes and when I confronted him about some errors in it that he had stated about me, he refused to run a retraction wouldn't even answer my e-mail.  And if he's supposed to be some religious figure this is the same James Floyd then he should have been willing to talk about it.  At least apologize and he refused, and so I've never had much an opinion  since then of him.

 Larry: Again when he moved to Truth Radio I called in on his show and of course it took him a minute or two to realize who I was.  By then I had already exposed these people as frauds,  and why was he supporting frauds.  Of course then he turns around and threatens me, "Oh yes that was Larry Lawson.  By the way if you ever get on my website again", which I went into his forums and said, "Hey guys he's a fraud, Here's why.  I always provide documentation".  He turned around and said he going to turn me into the FBI.  You know I was like, "So what!"  Secret service has been here twice.  The FBI head of counter terrorism task force of Indiana has been here.  You know it's not like they don't know where I'm at.  And by the way folks these were for things like, secret service first visit for saying that Clinton should have been impeached, convicted and executed for high treason for giving China military technology, which he's guilty of.  Bush Sr is just as guilty of high treason just as jnr is.  Second visit came when I posted a photo to the various yahoo web groups, it's called Bush sucks and it had a guy with a 50 calibre rifle.  Had a modified picture of a hat that said Bush sucks.  On the back of it, it said when all else fails vote from the rooftops.  And interestingly enough that photo came from a Bush NEOCON idiot in Canada.  So secret service came out and the guy was very friendly and polite, very friendly.  And I always take that as an opportunity to try and inform them because not of these are bad guys.  By the way that was in February I posted the photo, and they came around in mid May so they were on it.  It's not that it was a real threat or something.

 Sherry: Several months later.

 Larry: Yeah, but I understand that they have to, it's there job to run around and check out complaints.  You know before it was some pro-Clinton little whiney fruit bat, and this time it was NEOCON Bush Nazi.  So I try and make the best of these things, nothing I said was illegal.  I did sit and try and educate them and he did listen.  And it's interesting he had a younger kid there with him about aged 20.  You know my wife is an auditor here a county auditor, local government.  She ran for election and won on a republican ticket I might add.  She knows what a piece of crap Bush is.  And this young kid says, "how can you talk like you do and have your wife in government".  I pointed my finger at him and said, "You see that's exactly what you don't understand is, I am not anti government, what I am is anti corruption.  And these people up the top are corrupt as you can get." And from that point on he folded his hands and you know looked away.  You know he had been brainwashed, he didn't want to hear any more.  He though that Bush was daddy Bush's kid and daddy Bush just wanted to see his kid do well.  Folks it's not accident that this little skull and bones clone junior is in there.  Bare in mind what the CIA does, assassinations, they plan the disruption of other governments, propaganda.  That's where Hartwell and Web come in, these guys are rat poison, disinformation.  They give you some truth, yeah everybody know pretty much that Bush is a bad guy.  But when this idiot turns around and points fingers at you and me and others, you know just because we exposed his fraud.  And he's going to come around and say well all work for Ted Gunderson.  You know the first time I heard Ted Gunderson was a local radio programme called the Stan Solomon show.  I did a few shows with Stan Solomon here in Indiana.  The guy claimed to be a messianic Jew but it turns out he was a Zionist.  He later lied about the war in Iraq and started pushing it.  I countered him on the air and ooh by golly the first time I mentioned the Talmud he was going to cut me off.  Fortunately a producer of his knew the guy was lying so when he was on vacation I got 15 minute to counter his spin and now this guy is no longer on the air here in Indiana.  So I'm not anti Jewish, I am anti Zionist.  There's a big difference.

 Sherry: Yeap.

 Larry: Why does Alex have to spin that every time somebody comes on the air.  There's a caller calls in that continues to mention the Dame Grand Prix, who is very specific in mentioning the Zionist involvement.  Folks we had half a dozen of them video taping the World Trade Center coming down and laughing about it.  I've got a post that's I can't remember if I put it out, or it's coming out, but it's show the Israelis were in proximity of Al Qaeda suspects.  Israel has been caught recruiting for Al Qaeda just as the CIA has been caught.  They've set up their own patsies and boogy men.  It's like these poor Moslem kids over in Britain,  they had their car parking paid for.  They had return tickets on their subways and stuff.  These kids were not planning on killing themselves, they had been approached by the intelligence there which was MI6 and offered money in exchange for helping them run these little backpacks around to test their security.  Then when they got to various locations these freaks hit the buttons and blew them up.  They had pictures of them on the close circuit cameras and said, "see Moslems again".  You know they're setting up for a war in Iran folks.  The one thing you really need to research is who was Albert Pike?  What did Albert Pike say?  Albert Pike was an illuminist who in 1776 with Jucepe Magene and others they planned out three world wars to bring in the NWO.  Remember that's what daddy Bush talked about.  The third war was to be between the political Zionists and Arabs.  You've got instigators on both sides.  Political Zionism not Jews.  What does Revelations 2:9 say?  I know of the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews but do lie.  Why do we have these Zionist organizations like the ADL and the FBLC who push homosexuality and always talk about the holocaust, by the way folks Israel's made it now a law that they want to extradite people who don't agree with the holocaust.  Propaganda.  Mire Fagan and others estimate the number killed was 6 million which was horrendous, but it's no where near the 6 million bloated figure that these people use for an industry.  You know and again, Zionist worked with Hitler against real Jews.

 Sherry: Yeap.  Well we have to wrap up this week's show.  Since it was so short this week do you want to come back next week Larry?

 Larry: I apologize about the time.

 Sherry: Oh that's okay, we can pick this up next week if you're available.

 Larry: I'd love to.

 Sherry: Okay.  What we'll do is pick it up next week then and I'll talk to you during the week.

 Larry: Okay thank you Sherry.

 Sherry: Thanks for coming on the show tonight.

 Larry: You have a good one.

 Sherry: All right good-bye.  That wraps up the show tonight folks.  Sorry it was so short with Larry, I could spend hours with him.  I'll have him on next week, we'll pick up where we left off. 

 Have a good week, God bless.